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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 12:56 PM
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I am about to pull the trigger on the Yank SS 3200 converter. But there is another interesting one Ive seen a few times. The brand is Pro-torque and its a 3000 stall. Its advertised in WCC - West coast corvettes. This has some good claims and most notably, it says it does not require a cooler. Is that realistic??? I don't believe so.

Anyone have input on these converters? They seem like similar converters and I trust the name Yank more. But I want to be sure.

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With a .6 sec improvement in the 1/4 mile and a 2.4 mph increase in the trap speed, the Pro-Torque 3000RPM Stall Speed Torque Converter is one of the most cost effective modifications available for the A4 (automatic) C5 Corvette. This translates to a 24 HP improvement at the flywheel, which is a result of the torque converter's effective ability to transfer more power to the rear wheels.

Great converter for just "Bolt On's" or Supercharged strocker motors running on the street and does not require an additional trans cooler.

This is a great upgrade from the stock 1600rpm converter.

Installation is approx. 6 hrs.
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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 02:19 PM
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I've had the Yank SS 3600 for 7 years....daily driver w/ heads/cam/headers/3.42 gears....11.83/118 mph....28 mpha on the highway...runs at 2000 rpm/75 mph....wife when she drives does not notice the Yank at all...
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Originally Posted by NukeC5
I am about to pull the trigger on the Yank SS 3200 converter. But there is another interesting one Ive seen a few times. The brand is Pro-torque and its a 3000 stall. Its advertised in WCC - West coast corvettes. This has some good claims and most notably, it says it does not require a cooler. Is that realistic??? I don't believe so.

Anyone have input on these converters? They seem like similar converters and I trust the name Yank more. But I want to be sure.

Here is the add:::

Get ready to need new tires!

With a .6 sec improvement in the 1/4 mile and a 2.4 mph increase in the trap speed, the Pro-Torque 3000RPM Stall Speed Torque Converter is one of the most cost effective modifications available for the A4 (automatic) C5 Corvette. This translates to a 24 HP improvement at the flywheel, which is a result of the torque converter's effective ability to transfer more power to the rear wheels.

Great converter for just "Bolt On's" or Supercharged strocker motors running on the street and does not require an additional trans cooler.

This is a great upgrade from the stock 1600rpm converter.

Installation is approx. 6 hrs.
Yank, vig, circle d, and revmax ... I've never heard a complaint about any of those companies, are you ever going to throw some laughing gas at it ? Must it be billet ? I've had excellent results from winners choice trans in pa. Good people and they build everything in house ... Really nice product.
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Must it be billet... I'm wondering that myself. On the phone Yank recommended the SS 3200 series that is a billet 9.5" converter. This converter is 250 dollars more than the non-billet Stealth Thruster model they sell. It comes in a 3000 stall. Im wondering why it makes a difference.
They said with my 3.42's and my future cam/heads plan that the SS was the one to go with. I wont argue with the experts. But I am going to be looking at 400whp as the final product. Not 600whp which is what the SS handles.
Do they recommend ones more expensive than needed? What kind of car would the non-billets be for? I consider my build pretty mild...
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First, I'm not buying the comment that you won't even notice the stall on a Yank SS3600 in normal driving. It is quite noticable. I like it, but it's nothing like stock. I have 3.42 gears.

Maybe this Pro Torque converter works well. For all the labor involved, you willing to take a chance to save a few bucks? Ditto for the non billet Yank model.

I would add a cooler regardless. Use a good one and bypass the one in the radiator. I've yet to see 175 degrees with my setup, even in 100 degree ambient.

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Old Sep 1, 2012 | 05:30 PM
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The order is in for the Yank SS 3200. I think it will be a good converter. They have a 10% discount for labor day. That helps.
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First, I'm not buying the comment that you won't even notice the stall on a Yank SS3600 in normal driving. It is quite noticable. I like it, but it's nothing like stock. I have 3.42 gears.

Maybe this Pro Torque converter works well. For all the labor involved, you willing to take a chance to save a few bucks? Ditto for the non billet Yank model.

I would add a cooler regardless. Use a good one and bypass the one in the radiator. I've yet to see 175 degrees with my setup, even in 100 degree ambient.

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I agree I had my tranny cooler done this way and it was near 100 degrees today in Dallas and my coolant and tranny temps were pretty low, bypass is the way to go IMHO, I also agree it doesn't drive stock, but it's nice when you get on it.
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Go with the yank 3600, I've got 10000 miles on my set up. No probs. 3.42 gear, built trans 12.4 @ 109. Nice to drive. Don't believe that no cooler hype. I DRIVE my car, and I have seen 205 with a B&M double stack cooler. But normal driving it stays @ 175-185. You will lose 2-3 mpg. Great mod... GO YANK
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Originally Posted by timritchieblue
Go with the yank 3600, I've got 10000 miles on my set up. No probs. 3.42 gear, built trans 12.4 @ 109. Nice to drive. Don't believe that no cooler hype. I DRIVE my car, and I have seen 205 with a B&M double stack cooler. But normal driving it stays @ 175-185. You will lose 2-3 mpg. Great mod... GO YANK


I had the SS3600 before the SS4000 I am now running. It was an excellent converter. I had 3.73 gears my car felt almost like stock when driven normally. I also had a Pro Torque it was a 10.5 inch converter compared to the 9.5 inch Yank SS series. IMO the Yank performed better.
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Very foolish to not run a cooler IMHO. Very cheap, easy to DIY and cheap insurance
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I ran a Yank SS3200 for a couple years... it was great and actually felt like a sportier stock TC.

THEN, I switched to the Yank SS4000! After countless hours of transmission re-tuning, I love this thing. Everyone swears my cars sounds like a 6-speed. I can roast my 345 Nitto tires without any effort. If you tune the car well it will still feel great even with this high of a stall.

I do not run a transmission cooler but I do have a 160* thermostat, it seems to keep all of my fluids under 200.

With my 3.73 gears and SS4000, I cruise at about 2100RPM at 60 MPH during TC lockup. Plus 400 RPM without lockup.

My highway pulls under lockup are very strong... when unlocked it's insane.

You will notice a big difference in the sound your car makes going to a big stall.
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AFTRBRNR....nice setup you have.

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Some of your setups sound awesome . I appreciate the input. I defiantly planned to to this right and bought things accordingly. I just wanted to ask about that converter and the billet thing before I made a decision.
I bought the SS 3200. It is not the most aggressive setup, but a large increase over stock and I wanted very streetable. I also got the B&M fanned cooler #70297. RPMtransmission recommends this cooler so I think it will be a safe bet. Its pretty large.
I will be doing a C6 tunnel plate I picked up to at the same time too and possibly replacing my whining 3.42 gears. Not sure If I want to spend another $350 on a ring and pinion. But the diff has been screaming since I put it in the car. Very annoying.
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I think you will love your choice. I found my SS3600 in the for sale secction new/unused from a member who never installed it, so that made the choice for me. I also had a goal of running 11 flat...which I believe I will attain. Mine is a summer only car, although I drive it every day.
I have driven stalled autos forever, so I knew about what to expect.
Bummer on your gear whine! I bought a high mile diff here and I'll be damned if it isn't pretty silent. A bit of whine on ultra smooth (newly paved) roads but in any other condition I don't hear it.

Good luck with your combo! I will be interested to see how she does when complete.

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I would ALWAYS add an aftermarket trans cooler on any stall just for insurance--
As far as converter choice--My experience is to make sure that your choice is a conveter that is a smaller diamter than stock--Any converter that retains the stock diamter is just a re-worked stock unit with the vanes bent--They almost always fail in medium to high HP applications- I have a 3000 Phoenix stall and love it--( 9.5")
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I would ALWAYS add an aftermarket trans cooler on any stall just for insurance--
As far as converter choice--My experience is to make sure that your choice is a conveter that is a smaller diamter than stock--Any converter that retains the stock diamter is just a re-worked stock unit with the vanes bent--They almost always fail in medium to high HP applications- I have a 3000 Phoenix stall and love it--( 9.5")
Cool, Im sure I will love this Yank 3200. Its a 9.5" Billet converter. I look forward to the install.
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Originally Posted by NukeC5
Cool, Im sure I will love this Yank 3200. Its a 9.5" Billet converter. I look forward to the install.


Your first stomp on the gas should go something like this... "Sweet Jesus!"
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I just received my SS3200 today. I already have the cooler and just need to make time for the install. It only weighs 32lbs on my bathroom scale. I read on LS1tech that stock is 52lbs! This thing is going to make a big difference all around!

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Your first stomp on the gas should go something like this... "Sweet Jesus!"
I cant wait for that first stomp, but... Is anyone aware of a break in procedure for torque converters?
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Originally Posted by NukeC5
I cant wait for that first stomp, but... Is anyone aware of a break in procedure for torque converters?
Well, I wouldn't go right out and brake stall it to the moon, but no break in I've ever heard of.

C5's are a total pain to get filled correctly, by the time you get that done, have crawled out from under the car 5 times, and are bathed in ATF, it will be broken in already!

If doing on the floor, here is the process.

1. Pour one quart ATF on the floor under the car.
2. Pour one quart ATF in your hair.
3. Figure out the best way to get ATF to flow uphill into the car.
4. Lather, rinse, repeat!

I hope you have a lift!

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