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Thanks, so right now im thinking cai, ported trottle body (ls6?) and a good cat back set up and a good tune. Any other things i should consider with this wave of mods? maybe a ls6 intake manifold?
I am along similar lines as you . . .
My plan: LT headers, LOUDER cat-back exhaust, LS6 intake, CAI, fresh set of spark plugs, and a tune. I don't want to get too carried away. YET.
I haven't jumped on anything yet because my clutch is dying. I kinda want to baby the clutch as much as I can and do it all at once.
How do you determine (measure) for the proper length needed for pushrods? Is/are there any specific tools/rulers needed? Just a modding question while we're at it.
My plan: LT headers, LOUDER cat-back exhaust, LS6 intake, CAI, fresh set of spark plugs, and a tune. I don't want to get too carried away. YET.
I haven't jumped on anything yet because my clutch is dying. I kinda want to baby the clutch as much as I can and do it all at once.
headers, that might be a good addition, the list just keeps getting bigger!!
How do you determine (measure) for the proper length needed for pushrods? Is/are there any specific tools/rulers needed? Just a modding question while we're at it.
Use a push rod length checking tool. Basically it is a pushrod that has been cut and a threaded adjuster installed so you can very the length until proper rocker arm to valve stem geometry is attained.
Yes, you can send yours to various vendors and have is ported, or just buy a ported one ans sell yours. Or if you think you know how to do it yourself without over-porting you can save money that way.
Obviously a professional job will be the best bet. But I am happy with my home port job.
I'm thinking of home porting bc I'm pretty sure I can do it, I've been searching around, but do u know a good how to? Or anything just so I can get an idea and also what's with the epoxy mode? Purpose?
I would NEVER try and home port a T-Body-- especially a drive by wire one !
This is the best company I've found---Great product--great price--fast turn around--
( you send him yours to have ported) He has done 1000's and 1000's of them
Good reputation and a pleasure to do business with his Owener is Mark Shaner
Not a lot of HP in a port job--maybe only 3-5 RWHP---but it's cheap and easy and your throttle response and action is crisper---- BUT if you try and port it your self-- and mess it up--you have a piece of junk that is NOT repairable---why risk it- !!!
I would NEVER try and home port a T-Body-- especially a drive by wire one !
This is the best company I've found---Great product--great price--fast turn around--
( you send him yours to have ported) He has done 1000's and 1000's of them
Good reputation and a pleasure to do business with his Owener is Mark Shaner
Not a lot of HP in a port job--maybe only 3-5 RWHP---but it's cheap and easy and your throttle response and action is crisper---- BUT if you try and port it your self-- and mess it up--you have a piece of junk that is NOT repairable---why risk it- !!!
Its very easy to do it at home. Inside the throttle you can clearly see the machined surface that the throttle plate rides in. The rest is non machined surface in front of that area that has large lips and lots of material to remove. Just stay away from the machined surface that the plate rides on and one will be fine. (Messing with that area is known as over-porting). I've done two LS1 throttles, and others for many different vehicles. All received better throttle response and claims of an increase in fuel economy.
Cat back exhaust alone will give you 0 horsepower gains, zilch,nada,nothing, you may end up losing some hp.. They are for sound only.. The restrictive part of your exhaust is in the stock exhaust manifolds ,pre-cat and catayltic converters.. Go with longtube headers and high flow cats.
Last edited by David426; Sep 13, 2012 at 02:53 PM.
Cat back exhaust alone will give you 0 horsepower gains, zilch,nada,nothing, you may end up losing some hp.. They are for sound only.. The restrictive party of your exhaust is in the stock exhaust manifolds ,pre-cat and catayltic converters..
There's a few benefits in addition to the sound someone is after. Better fuel economy is usually seen, most kits reduce weight. Especially straight pipes. And most after market mufflers do have less restriction. The power increase would be small. No 10 to 15hp like they claim, but I think there is a few ponies that make it to the wheels.
There certainly are better mods out there. But cat backs are still one of the first things to do for most people because of the sound and dress-up of the rear end.
The best bang for the buck performance piece u can do for an A4 is a stall.
Couldn't agree more, excluding nitrous a stall is the best bang for the buck on an A4. Plus a stall will make your car perform even better when you add other mods. Do at least a 3200 stall, a Yank SS3200 or SS3600 would be my choice.
Cat back exhaust alone will give you 0 horsepower gains, zilch,nada,nothing, you may end up losing some hp.. They are for sound only.. The restrictive part of your exhaust is in the stock exhaust manifolds ,pre-cat and catayltic converters.. Go with longtube headers and high flow cats.
Dude. You are guaranteed 29 - 74 hp from a cat-back system.
My thought on cat-back: if the car sounds cooler, then it's GOT to be faster, RIGHT? Just like a fancy chrome oil fill cap is worth about 8 HP alone.
There's a few benefits in addition to the sound someone is after. Better fuel economy is usually seen, most kits reduce weight. Especially straight pipes. And most after market mufflers do have less restriction. The power increase would be small. No 10 to 15hp like they claim, but I think there is a few ponies that make it to the wheels.
There certainly are better mods out there. But cat backs are still one of the first things to do for most people because of the sound and dress-up of the rear end.
Try this experiment... Take a cocktail straw or a coffee stir straw .. This will represent the first part of your cars exhaust stock exhaust system, exhaust mainifold,pre cat up to the catalyitic converter.. Blow through the straw to get an idea of the airflow.. Now take a regular size straw and tape it air tight to the end of the coffee stir straw.. The larger straw represents your cat back system. Now you have a representation of the full exhaust.. Blow through the coffee straw,, is the air flow any better with the big straw on the end? Nope.. Now try putting a garden hose at the end of the straw and tape it on the stir stick airtight.. Blow through the straw... Any more airflow coming through? Nope.. Next, take a 4inch diameter piece of PVC pipe.. Tape it too the stir straw, and see if the airflow is increased... Nope.. The restrictive air flow is the first part of the exhaust which you need Longtube headers and a highflow cats.. This is where you will see power impovements with aftermarket catback systems
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Originally Posted by David426
Try this experiment... Take a cocktail straw or a coffee stir straw .. This will represent the first part of your cars exhaust stock exhaust system, exhaust mainifold,pre cat up to the catalyitic converter.. Blow through the straw to get an idea of the airflow.. Now take a regular size straw and tape it air tight to the end of the coffee stir straw.. The larger straw represents your cat back system. Now you have a representation of the full exhaust.. Blow through the coffee straw,, is the air flow any better with the big straw on the end? Nope.. Now try putting a garden hose at the end of the straw and tape it on the stir stick airtight.. Blow through the straw... Any more airflow coming through? Nope.. Next, take a 4inch diameter piece of PVC pipe.. Tape it too the stir straw, and see if the airflow is increased... Nope.. The restrictive air flow is the first part of the exhaust which you need Longtube headers and a highflow cats.. This is where you will see power impovements with aftermarket catback systems
Try this experiment... Take a cocktail straw or a coffee stir straw .. This will represent the first part of your cars exhaust stock exhaust system, exhaust mainifold,pre cat up to the catalyitic converter.. Blow through the straw to get an idea of the airflow.. Now take a regular size straw and tape it air tight to the end of the coffee stir straw.. The larger straw represents your cat back system. Now you have a representation of the full exhaust.. Blow through the coffee straw,, is the air flow any better with the big straw on the end? Nope.. Now try putting a garden hose at the end of the straw and tape it on the stir stick airtight.. Blow through the straw... Any more airflow coming through? Nope.. Next, take a 4inch diameter piece of PVC pipe.. Tape it too the stir straw, and see if the airflow is increased... Nope.. The restrictive air flow is the first part of the exhaust which you need Longtube headers and a highflow cats.. This is where you will see power impovements with aftermarket catback systems
A few flaws with this suck and blow experiment. The system is 2.5" so its not going into a larger straw. Second, you cannot simulate scavenging with your mouth, (No matter how good you are at blowing ). An x-pipe and axle back will help with this, thus increasing power. Anything on par with a long tube header set up? No. But there are benefits to be had.
By the way, this is all in good fun, so don't freak out. I couldnt resist