Vararam Would it be worth it.
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Vararam Would it be worth it.
I have a blackwing now and was thinking maybe going with the vararam. When I installed the blackwing on my car it was the first mod I did. I didnt notice a big difference at that time. So I thought this might be a good option.
What do you guys think and is this better than a vortex system as well?
What do you guys think and is this better than a vortex system as well?
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Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (Skeeter1)
So no big difference in blackwing as a top breather and the vararam system. What about the vortex any difference there.
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Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (ncvetteman)
I would put a cover on the blackwing/donaldson. Cold Air intakes do work better.
The Vortex is not as good a performer as the Vararam, but, it's not very far off. Not worth switching frm V to V, IMHO. If it's your first intake, the Vararam is a very high peforming unit. Different look than the Vortex, different material, and a different install.
We offer the Vortex for $225, shipped and we offer the Vararam at the retail figure of $549 minus 10 percent for registered Forum Members.
The BW at around 2 bills, is a great unit that is easy to install, has a huge filtering surface and pretty good gains.
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Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (RG in Dallas)
Yes but richard would there be an improvement from the blackwing to vararam or the vortex. I have heard you say maybe 4 or 5 hp, between the vortex and the BW. Is this true with the vararam as well and what about the track time difference. If that horsepower is right then there would be less than a 1/10 of a second difference between the systems.
Is it also true that the vortex will really reduce your times at the track by .35 seconds. I would also think the BW must reduce times by about .30 seconds if the HP numbers from before are correct.
Please advise thanks :)
Is it also true that the vortex will really reduce your times at the track by .35 seconds. I would also think the BW must reduce times by about .30 seconds if the HP numbers from before are correct.
Please advise thanks :)
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Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (golfman)
Yes but richard would there be an improvement from the blackwing to vararam or the vortex. I have heard you say maybe 4 or 5 hp, between the vortex and the BW. Is this true with the vararam as well and what about the track time difference. If that horsepower is right then there would be less than a 1/10 of a second difference between the systems.
Is it also true that the vortex will really reduce your times at the track by .35 seconds. I would also think the BW must reduce times by about .30 seconds if the HP numbers from before are correct.
Please advise thanks :)
Is it also true that the vortex will really reduce your times at the track by .35 seconds. I would also think the BW must reduce times by about .30 seconds if the HP numbers from before are correct.
Please advise thanks :)
If it was the first intake and you want the most hp one will give, regardless of how it sets up, what it costs, install, etc... I'd say VaraRam or Vortex...installation being longer on the VaraRam and it takes the cold air from the bumper area before if goes under the car. Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains.
Cold air kits are my favorite. Not all Members here feel comfortable making a cut in the should, nor, a longer than a 15 minute install, so the BW is the right choice for them.
As has been said, the BW cover, use it and you may get surging with it on the 01/02 cars and I've had customers with that issue on pre 01/02 cars. Not worth the trouble or cost to me.
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Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (RG in Dallas)
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"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
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Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (golfman)
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"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
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Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (golfman)
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"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
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Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (ncvetteman)
So are you also saying twice the HP for a cold air system. That would be amazing. I think alot of people with top breathers wont like to hear that. :D
