Vararam Would it be worth it.
Thread Starter
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: valrico fl
St. Jude Donor '05
Vararam Would it be worth it.
I have a blackwing now and was thinking maybe going with the vararam. When I installed the blackwing on my car it was the first mod I did. I didnt notice a big difference at that time. So I thought this might be a good option.
What do you guys think and is this better than a vortex system as well?
What do you guys think and is this better than a vortex system as well?
Thread Starter
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: valrico fl
St. Jude Donor '05
Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (Skeeter1)
So no big difference in blackwing as a top breather and the vararam system. What about the vortex any difference there.
Thanks :)
[Modified by golfman, 5:00 AM 6/4/2002]
Thanks :)
[Modified by golfman, 5:00 AM 6/4/2002]
Race Director
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 0
From: Dallas TX
Elite Member
Cruise-In I Veteran
Cruise-In II Veteran
Cruise-In III Veteran
Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (ncvetteman)
I would put a cover on the blackwing/donaldson. Cold Air intakes do work better.
The Vortex is not as good a performer as the Vararam, but, it's not very far off. Not worth switching frm V to V, IMHO. If it's your first intake, the Vararam is a very high peforming unit. Different look than the Vortex, different material, and a different install.
We offer the Vortex for $225, shipped and we offer the Vararam at the retail figure of $549 minus 10 percent for registered Forum Members.
The BW at around 2 bills, is a great unit that is easy to install, has a huge filtering surface and pretty good gains.
RG
[Modified by RG in Dallas, 10:36 AM 6/4/2002]
Thread Starter
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: valrico fl
St. Jude Donor '05
Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (RG in Dallas)
Yes but richard would there be an improvement from the blackwing to vararam or the vortex. I have heard you say maybe 4 or 5 hp, between the vortex and the BW. Is this true with the vararam as well and what about the track time difference. If that horsepower is right then there would be less than a 1/10 of a second difference between the systems.
Is it also true that the vortex will really reduce your times at the track by .35 seconds. I would also think the BW must reduce times by about .30 seconds if the HP numbers from before are correct.
Please advise thanks :)
Is it also true that the vortex will really reduce your times at the track by .35 seconds. I would also think the BW must reduce times by about .30 seconds if the HP numbers from before are correct.
Please advise thanks :)
Corvette Stories
The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!
Verdad Gallardo
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!
Brett Foote
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!
Michael S. Palmer
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know
Joe Kucinski
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2
Michael S. Palmer
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor
Joe Kucinski
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!
Joe Kucinski
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!
Joe Kucinski
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!
Joe Kucinski
Race Director
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 0
From: Dallas TX
Elite Member
Cruise-In I Veteran
Cruise-In II Veteran
Cruise-In III Veteran
Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (golfman)
Yes but richard would there be an improvement from the blackwing to vararam or the vortex. I have heard you say maybe 4 or 5 hp, between the vortex and the BW. Is this true with the vararam as well and what about the track time difference. If that horsepower is right then there would be less than a 1/10 of a second difference between the systems.
Is it also true that the vortex will really reduce your times at the track by .35 seconds. I would also think the BW must reduce times by about .30 seconds if the HP numbers from before are correct.
Please advise thanks :)
Is it also true that the vortex will really reduce your times at the track by .35 seconds. I would also think the BW must reduce times by about .30 seconds if the HP numbers from before are correct.
Please advise thanks :)
If it was the first intake and you want the most hp one will give, regardless of how it sets up, what it costs, install, etc... I'd say VaraRam or Vortex...installation being longer on the VaraRam and it takes the cold air from the bumper area before if goes under the car. Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains.
Cold air kits are my favorite. Not all Members here feel comfortable making a cut in the should, nor, a longer than a 15 minute install, so the BW is the right choice for them.
As has been said, the BW cover, use it and you may get surging with it on the 01/02 cars and I've had customers with that issue on pre 01/02 cars. Not worth the trouble or cost to me.
RG
[Modified by RG in Dallas, 5:25 PM 6/4/2002]
Thread Starter
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: valrico fl
St. Jude Donor '05
Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (RG in Dallas)
Quote
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
Race Director
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 0
From: Dallas TX
Elite Member
Cruise-In I Veteran
Cruise-In II Veteran
Cruise-In III Veteran
Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (golfman)
Quote
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
RG
Safety Car
Joined: Feb 2001
Posts: 3,569
Likes: 0
From: Greenville NC
Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (golfman)
Quote
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
"Probably a small, yet, positive impact on hp gains."
So am I to conclude that the vararam and the vortex are a little better than the BW. Not much of a gain for the expense of $500.00. The vortex is a little better deal on price but you have to cut your shroud and it is only a little better than the BW as well.
I hope I have understood what your are saying.
:)
Thread Starter
Instructor
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 246
Likes: 0
From: valrico fl
St. Jude Donor '05
Re: Vararam Would it be worth it. (ncvetteman)
So are you also saying twice the HP for a cold air system. That would be amazing. I think alot of people with top breathers wont like to hear that. :D
