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Old Jan 9, 2013 | 11:24 PM
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I noticed no one sells the rear upper ball joints. Moog sells front and rear lower and front upper. Can anybody tell me why no one sells the rear upper or is all the uppers the same ball joint? Thanks for any info

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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 05:17 PM
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Need to know the same thing. Did you find out?
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A lot of help this site is!
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No listing because the C5 does not have upper rear ball joints.
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 09:08 PM
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So what is that ball-joint-looking thing attached to the knuckle?

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That is ball joint on LOWER control arm. Actually it is called the ball stud and is furnished as part of the lower control arm. I do not believe it is replaceable as separate item. The Upper control arm does not have one.

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That is ball joint on LOWER control arm. The Upper control arm does not have one.


Reeeally??

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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 02:27 AM
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So what is that ball-joint-looking thing attached to the knuckle?

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That is ball joint on LOWER control arm.
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Sorry it took so long to respond back. I found out that all front/rear upper ball joints are the same and all front/rear lower ball joints are the same. I bought all 8 from Ecklers Corvette. I installed them already and now im waiting on my control arm bushings to come in.

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My mistake on the rear ball joints. Since GM parts did not show separate PN for Ball joints I assumed they where only available as part of the knuckle or lower arm.
Since the Frnt LH knuckle is the same part # as the Rear RH (similar for Frnt LF and Rear RH) it makes sense that respective ball joints are the same.
Funny that the GM SI does not show procedure for R&R on the rear ball joints but does have it for front ball joints - go figure.
Once again my mistake and hope I did not send anyone in the wrong diretion
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My mistake on the rear ball joints. Since GM parts did not show separate PN for Ball joints I assumed they where only available as part of the knuckle or lower arm.
Since the Frnt LH knuckle is the same part # as the Rear RH (similar for Frnt LF and Rear RH) it makes sense that respective ball joints are the same.
Funny that the GM SI does not show procedure for R&R on the rear ball joints but does have it for front ball joints - go figure.
Once again my mistake and hope I did not send anyone in the wrong diretion
Hey, not to worry. I wuz just jazzin' you a little.

Yeah, GM still does not list a separate rear upper ball joint as being available, so they still don't have their act together on that issue.

Prolly asking a bit too much for someone there deep in the bowels of GM to go: "Hey, Sam, ya know what? Them there spindles are the same part number assemblies on opposite corners, and we specify a service replacement ball-joint for the uppers up in front, sooooo why don't we just go ahead and list the SAME part number for the uppers in the rear?" "Bueller........?"

Kinda moot now anyways as the ball joints (as separate items) are NLA from GM and we have to rely on aftermarket, which is not necessarily a bad thing.
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just how hard was it to install these? Special tool?
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Yeah i found out the same thing on my own. Just got mine in today from rockauto. moog k500134 will install it over the weekend.
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just how hard was it to install these? Special tool?
i have a hydraulic press and i have different size pipe and i supported them so I wouldnt mess the A-arms and the spindles up.

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Originally Posted by dadsturn
just how hard was it to install these? Special tool?
They are press fit.

As stated above the upper ball joint IS THE SAME front/rear as the there are only TWO part numbers for the C5 knuckles.

If anyone in the NE needs them changed, please call me.

I've done a bunch, currently have a set of 8 arms in for the LG monoballs and new ball joints
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just how hard was it to install these? Special tool?
Yes, at least somewhat special tooling and make sure they go in straight. You're pressing a steel piece into aluminum so pressing it in at an angle will damage the aluminum part.
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Originally Posted by SteveDoten
They are press fit.

As stated above the upper ball joint IS THE SAME front/rear as the there are only TWO part numbers for the C5 knuckles.

If anyone in the NE needs them changed, please call me.

I've done a bunch, currently have a set of 8 arms in for the LG monoballs and new ball joints


I know this a very old thread, but I am thinking of swapping out my upper and lower ball joints in the front. While I was searching on line to price them out, I ran across a few 2010 threads on this forum about swapping them out. Back then, there seemed to be a lot of different opinions about if you have to heat the knuckles and a-arms up. Do you use heat or not?

I see on a few parts places you can get new lowers with ball joints already installed. They also sell the uppers as well, yes, I know the uppers do not have the ball joints pressed in the, the ball joints are pressed in the knuckle. Did you use heat on them?
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I know this a very old thread, but I am thinking of swapping out my upper and lower ball joints in the front. While I was searching on line to price them out, I ran across a few 2010 threads on this forum about swapping them out. Back then, there seemed to be a lot of different opinions about if you have to heat the knuckles and a-arms up. Do you use heat or not?

I see on a few parts places you can get new lowers with ball joints already installed. They also sell the uppers as well, yes, I know the uppers do not have the ball joints pressed in the, the ball joints are pressed in the knuckle. Did you use heat on them?
Indeed a old thread lol You caught me at the right time as I am doing the same right now. I did not use heat but instead sprayed alot of PB Blaster and a ball joint separator kit to removed them. Universal kit worked "ok" with 1/2 impact wrench to turn it...
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WARNING!! stay away from Mevotech, they are complete junk! At least they were on my Hummer H3. Upper Aarms w/ ball joints installed lasted 6 months. alignment shop couldnt even complete the alignment they were so bad.
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I noticed no one sells the rear upper ball joints. Moog sells front and rear lower and front upper. Can anybody tell me why no one sells the rear upper or is all the uppers the same ball joint? Thanks for any info

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c5 rear ball joints. Are the same as the front ball joints that’s why nobody sells rear ball joints because it the same part numbers as the front ball joint. Just order 2 upper and 2 lower ball joints labeled as front ball joints. They fit the rear as well tho if your rear ball joints are bad your front probably are as well just order 4 upper and 4 lower. Rent the removal tool and change them all then go get the front and back end alignment.
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