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Old May 23, 2013 | 04:47 PM
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I have a Bendpak HD9 4 post lift. Can I raise my car, slide 4
6 ton jack stands under the car placed on the garage floor, place a 2 x 6 on top of the jack stands positioned under the front and rear cross members. Slowly lower the lift so the car is supported by the jack stands on the ground.

Is anyone using this method and is it safe? Will I cause any damage?
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Old May 23, 2013 | 05:45 PM
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It should work fine. Just make sure that everything is stable and properly aligned before you lower the car. That method is a PITA really. What type of work are you trying to accomplish ? If just changing tires or doing brake work, just use a floor jack and puck picking up one side of the car at a time. You really need to invest in a set of rolling jacks for your lift. They will make life a bunch easier and safer.
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Old May 23, 2013 | 05:49 PM
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Mostly brake work and light suspension work.
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Jack Pucks work best for this and there are many posts about doing this. You can buy or make your own pucks by using Hockey pucks with an eye bolt in the center is the preferred choice.
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buy a pair of hydraulic scissor jacks...they fit the jacking points on the rockers...with a pair you can raise one side of the car at a time for tire removal, brake work, etc. Here is the one I use....I may get 2 more so I can jack the entire car up and sail through any work I am doing! They sit right on your ramps, no need to mess around under the chassis.

http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/8347561/

helluva deal right now...20% off of $59 and free shipping over $75....never seen them cheaper.

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I have made a set of 4 jack pucks with eye bolts and hockey pucks. I feel more comfortable with the car supported under the cross members.
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Originally Posted by $$$frumnuttin'
buy a pair of hydraulic scissor jacks...they fit the jacking points on the rockers...with a pair you can raise one side of the car at a time for tire removal, brake work, etc. Here is the one I use....I may get 2 more so I can jack the entire car up and sail through any work I am doing! They sit right on your ramps, no need to mess around under the chassis.

http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/8347561/

helluva deal right now...20% off of $59 and free shipping over $75....never seen them cheaper.
They look like a good jack and could come in handy. But I would be concerned working on brakes or suspension while the car is supported by a jack. I would like something solid like a jack stand before I get under the car. Or am I missing something? Do they have a locking mechanism or something?
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They look like a good jack and could come in handy. But I would be concerned working on brakes or suspension while the car is supported by a jack. I would like something solid like a jack stand before I get under the car. Or am I missing something? Do they have a locking mechanism or something?
Yes, they have a hydraulic valve that once closed, stays that way. These are well built...weigh about 20 lbs, and are super sturdy. The base is very solid and once you start raising the car you will be very satisfied to work under it....just don't bump your head on your drive up ramps like I do. Wear a helmet or at least a cap.

The nice thing is you do not need any pucks....the contact surface is about 2x3 inches and fits perfectly inside the frame rail opening. This allows lowered cars, like mine, to be jacked up without extra hardware or ramping. The lowest setting, at rest, is about 3 and 3/4 inches which easily fits under most C5s as long as they are not lowered too much. If they are lower, you can place your drive up ramps flush in front of the vehicle position, and drive your front end up a couple inches thus allowing clearance for the jacks. I'll post a pic for you in a minute.

Here is a view of the jack in use for test mounting my new wheels....



Here I am fitting the DIY side skirts....note the drive on ramps up front to gain some clearance at the jacking points.



...installing coilovers...what a pain!



a better view...and my last one...you get the idea I'm sure...these are handy and cheap and strong as an ox.


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I use a scissors jack to raise the car at the crossmember and then place wood on the rocker rails to support the car for work. Very solid.







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Now that's the proper way to have your car blocked

Leaving a scissor or hydraulic jack under the puck or the rocker savers,
with out blocking...... just isn't getting it.
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Originally Posted by $$$frumnuttin'
buy a pair of hydraulic scissor jacks...they fit the jacking points on the rockers...with a pair you can raise one side of the car at a time for tire removal, brake work, etc. Here is the one i use....i may get 2 more so i can jack the entire car up and sail through any work i am doing!:d they sit right on your ramps, no need to mess around under the chassis.

http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/8347561/

helluva deal right now...20% off of $59 and free shipping over $75....never seen them cheaper.
sold out!!!!!!
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Old May 24, 2013 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by c5mtl
sold out!!!!!!

Those jacks are nice/handy.
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Thanks for all posters who responded especially those who posted photos. I was thinking someone used the method I mentioned in #1 lowering the lift with jack stands on the ground under the front and rear cross members. This would seem to be economical and safe. Am I missing something?
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Yes, You are missing the fact that what you are attempting/proposing to do is in fact the hard way.

The two members that posted pictures of their four post lifts & their vehicles blocked, would be the most practical way to change wheels, brakes, etc.

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Old May 25, 2013 | 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by Patches
I use a scissors jack to raise the car at the crossmember and then place wood on the rocker rails to support the car for work. Very solid.[/IMG]
Patches, Where did you get the scissor jack? I have one like $$$frumnuttin' but want one that will lift the crossmember using the jack tray.
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Originally Posted by bumble-z
Leaving a scissor or hydraulic jack under the puck or the rocker savers,
with out blocking...... just isn't getting it.
I see no problem whatsoever with those scissor jacks being used as pictured. If I knew of a good scissor jack to recommend I would have recommended the exact same thing.
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Originally Posted by $$$frumnuttin'
buy a pair of hydraulic scissor jacks...they fit the jacking points on the rockers...with a pair you can raise one side of the car at a time for tire removal, brake work, etc. Here is the one I use....I may get 2 more so I can jack the entire car up and sail through any work I am doing! They sit right on your ramps, no need to mess around under the chassis.

http://www.pepboys.com/product/details/8347561/

helluva deal right now...20% off of $59 and free shipping over $75....never seen them cheaper.
WOW! GREAT DEAL! Will those fit under a lowered car though?
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I see no problem whatsoever with those scissor jacks being used as pictured. If I knew of a good scissor jack to recommend I would have recommended the exact same thing.
There is nothing wrong at all with those scissor jacks, I like them.

If you feel comfortable with your head/limbs under them without blocking added, that's completely up to you.
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Originally Posted by bumble-z
There is nothing wrong at all with those scissor jacks, I like them.

If you feel comfortable with your head/limbs under them without blocking added, that's completely up to you.
I personally don't like the stacked pieces of wood as much as the jacks. Stacked wood pieces can slide over each other dropping the car too, and the car would likely be sliding to one side of the lift if that happened.

If you're dumb enough to stick your head under a car that's only lifted on a jack then you deserve what happens....
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I personally don't like the stacked pieces of wood as much as the jacks. Stacked wood pieces can slide over each other dropping the car too, and the car would likely be sliding to one side of the lift if that happened.

If you're dumb enough to stick your head under a car that's only lifted on a jack then you deserve what happens....
When I use those jacks I am standing outside the vehicle footprint, and if I am going to get under the car I simply add my blocks, which are solid pieces of wood 10" x 10" x 12" cut from mining timbers. also, the lift isn't raised more than a couple feet...just to shoulder height for less strain on my back on knees. Finally, these hydraulic jacks run circles around your ordinary hand crank type which I usually throw away due to their thin gauge steel components.
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