Need help, sporadic no start issue.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Greenville SC
Need help, sporadic no start issue.
02Z will sometimes not start, lights come on etc., just will not turn over, nothing. Sometimes it will start after a few times, sometimes have to let it sit. (same issue on. 95). It may not happen for months, then several times in a week. Happened recently a couple times, then today. So I took codes before I got it started, then cleared them, drove it, then checked again and no codes.
Codes:
60 ipc. U1255h
Radio codes
A1 rdcm. B2265h
BO. Rfa. U1096h
Any ideas?
I am going to spray the key and ignition with contact cleaner tomorrow.
Codes:
60 ipc. U1255h
Radio codes
A1 rdcm. B2265h
BO. Rfa. U1096h
Any ideas?
I am going to spray the key and ignition with contact cleaner tomorrow.
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St. Jude Donor '08-'09-'10-'11-'12-'13-'14-'15-'16
Check your positive battery cable for tightness both at the battery, and where it attaches to the starter solenoid. Don't just eyeball it, but check it with a socket, after disconnecting your negative battery terminal first of course.
It's also very possible it could be the solenoid itself has gone TU and not just a loose connection.
HTH
It's also very possible it could be the solenoid itself has gone TU and not just a loose connection.
HTH
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Le Mans Master
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From: Greenville SC
I know it is not the cable on the battery, had it on off many times. I will check on the starter the next time I have car up. I really don't think it is that though. My 95 does exact same thing, seems like key doesn't make contact, or some other security thing, seems like time resets it. I try various things each time, wipe keep, lock/unlock, get out and let it sit 15 min or a day. Usually will start after I keep trying, sometimes after an hour, a few times had to wait a day, but always starts right up after day, same exact thing on both cars, both have the pellet keys.
I did clear codes when it didn't start, then drove it a few minutes later after starting, then I checked it later and no codes.
It is unnerving because I Never know when it will happen, or correct itself on both cars. Stranded me once.
I did clear codes when it didn't start, then drove it a few minutes later after starting, then I checked it later and no codes.
It is unnerving because I Never know when it will happen, or correct itself on both cars. Stranded me once.
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Another vote for the starter solenoid. Next time it happens, try tapping on the starter with the handle of a screw driver or handle of hammer. (in other words, don't beat the crap out of the starter) If it starts after that, it would be a good indicator that your solenoid is getting stuck.
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I know it is not the cable on the battery, had it on off many times. I will check on the starter the next time I have car up. I really don't think it is that though. My 95 does exact same thing, seems like key doesn't make contact, or some other security thing, seems like time resets it. I try various things each time, wipe keep, lock/unlock, get out and let it sit 15 min or a day. Usually will start after I keep trying, sometimes after an hour, a few times had to wait a day, but always starts right up after day, same exact thing on both cars, both have the pellet keys.
I did clear codes when it didn't start, then drove it a few minutes later after starting, then I checked it later and no codes.
It is unnerving because I Never know when it will happen, or correct itself on both cars. Stranded me once.
I did clear codes when it didn't start, then drove it a few minutes later after starting, then I checked it later and no codes.
It is unnerving because I Never know when it will happen, or correct itself on both cars. Stranded me once.
Power is not getting to the starter motor itself. Although there could be other causes, a loose connection and/or bad solenoid are number one on the list. Problems such as this do not "correct" themselves. They get worse. Ignore this and you will very likely be stranded again.
HTH
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Le Mans Master
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From: Greenville SC
Did it again today twice, again no codes. I could hear a click, so I think it might be the TDR relay, but sounds like it comes from radio area not floor. Like others have said I think it is probably a bad solenoid, probably same thing on my 95. How long do these starters usually last, should I go ahead and replace both? 52k miles
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mileage is meaningless to a degree. it's all about heat and start cycles. headers really speed these to their death. solenoids last around 10 years on average
there are a few things that can cause this. the starter switch, the starter relay under the hood.
my car did this at one point and i replaced that relay and the starter. cured the issue. but, that's me, may not be the same situation
amazon typically has the best prices on ac delco parts
there are a few things that can cause this. the starter switch, the starter relay under the hood.
my car did this at one point and i replaced that relay and the starter. cured the issue. but, that's me, may not be the same situation
amazon typically has the best prices on ac delco parts
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Le Mans Master
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I fond a Bosch for $110 w a life time warranty, think I will go with that and hope it solves problem. Especially since it looks like replacement w long tubes will be a PIA.
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if you have long tubes, any kind of heat shield you make will help. the heat those things put out really shorten starter life
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AAMOF, if you haven't yet checked your positive battery cable where it attaches to the solenoid, you could be wasting even more of your time.
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Le Mans Master
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From: Greenville SC
I was talking about a starter, I am not buying a solenoid. The starter I mentioned will not work, even though Amazon said it would. I found a Pure Energy for $91 that is supposed to be good, and getting a heat shield too.
I will check cable, but major project to get to it with long tubes. At that point I will put in a new starter regardless since so much to get to it, and don't want to do again on a 12 yr old starter.
I will check cable, but major project to get to it with long tubes. At that point I will put in a new starter regardless since so much to get to it, and don't want to do again on a 12 yr old starter.