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Had the injectors out earlier and discovered this. At first glance they seem like a spacer of some sort. Made of a hard plastic material and very brittle. All 8 have cracks through them but this one was totally missing a side. I can't seem to locate a replacement kit of these things. They are NOT the rubber O-rings. The rubber O-rings live behind these hard plastic things...
can you post a side pic of the injector/spacer? measure them and try to find Billet ones to replace them. sounds like you have aftermarket injectors that require spacers to keep the length the same as stock.
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Last edited by RedZMonte; Apr 3, 2014 at 07:35 PM.
it is not a spacer. That ring sits on the bottom of the fuel injector to keep the o ring in the correct position and keep it from slippinng/vibrating down. Some other injectors have caps on them instead of that hard plastic ring.
Talk to Jon at Fuel Injector Connection. He can get you taken care of.
Here is a side profile shot. It came out a little blurry but its good enough to see the hard plastic ring with the rubber o ring behind it. I will also look up fuel injector connection
They are called pintle caps. See the link below (pintle caps are hard to see but are on right side of picture), you may as well replace the o rings and injector filter too while you got em out. Ask this seller for pricing for a set of 8, it'll be much cheaper, I think I got mine for my ford red tops for about $30 total for all 8
If you want to do it right, have the entire injector cleaned and flowmatched. That is the best way. There is more than 1 filter basket in quite a few different injectors and just changing the basket will not clean out any deposits on the inside or in the pintle of the injector either.
They are called pintle caps. See the link below (pintle caps are hard to see but are on right side of picture), you may as well replace the o rings and injector filter too while you got em out. Ask this seller for pricing for a set of 8, it'll be much cheaper, I think I got mine for my ford red tops for about $30 total for all 8
I've never dealt with opening up and servicing injectors before. Is it a relatively simple job requiring normal hand tools? I also wonder if these parts are shot would it be simpler to just buy 8 new injectors and plug them in?
I had this LS6 engine put in my regular 01' back in November '13. Apparently these injectors have some miles on them otherwise they wouldn't look like hell. Damn ethanol gas.....
I also wonder if these things contribute to the deceleration / coasting engine stumble I have. Seems like I have a vacuum leak but after going through the whole engine bay several times and finding no leak I'm beginning to think I may have the culprit here.
We can either have your injectors serviced and flowmatched, or we can get you a new flowmatched set. You would be surprised how many drivability issues are related to dirty injectors.
We can either have your injectors serviced and flowmatched, or we can get you a new flowmatched set. You would be surprised how many drivability issues are related to dirty injectors.
Could you PM me the details on a brand new flowmatched set? This car is my daily driver so I can't have it tore down waiting on parts.
The engine has a small cam in it. I'm 99% sure the current injectors are the stock factory examples. Not sure what the pressure is on them (thinking its 28). So if I could get some good stockers or some equivalents that'd be great. I also have the LS6 intake in use as well.
CoSPEED is right, it can be a gamble if you don't have them cleaned properly. As for the stumbling, you'd be amazed at what a vac leak at the injector seal can do. Not saying this is your problem, but if your injector o rings are worn it very well could be causing the issue. Now, if you do decide to just install the caps yourself without cleaning, you won't need to open up the injector. To get the old pintle caps off you cut them with a razor blade and pry them off with a flat head. Slide new o ring on and press on new pintle cap, you'll know when it's in place as it kind of "snaps." Careful not to break it though. To get the filter out of the top, screw a small screw into the filter but don't go too deep, grab the head of the screw with some pliers and the filter should come out with a little force. To install the new filter, press it in, then lightly hit the top of the filter with a hammer until it is all the way into the injector.
Those arent a real cap. They are just a plastic ring. If you arent careful installing the new caps you can break them also. We can get the new caps and o rings in a kit, but I have even been surprised at the amount of good a new set of injectors can do. Esp from factory tolerances to flowmatched.
CoSPEED is right, it can be a gamble if you don't have them cleaned properly. As for the stumbling, you'd be amazed at what a vac leak at the injector seal can do. Not saying this is your problem, but if your injector o rings are worn it very well could be causing the issue. Now, if you do decide to just install the caps yourself without cleaning, you won't need to open up the injector. To get the old pintle caps off you cut them with a razor blade and pry them off with a flat head. Slide new o ring on and press on new pintle cap, you'll know when it's in place as it kind of "snaps." Careful not to break it though. To get the filter out of the top, screw a small screw into the filter but don't go too deep, grab the head of the screw with some pliers and the filter should come out with a little force. To install the new filter, press it in, then lightly hit the top of the filter with a hammer until it is all the way into the injector.
Quite the project there. With the way my luck goes I think I'll just pop a new set of injectors on there since I have no idea the history my current ones have since they are in **** condition.