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Replaced all 3 OEM Delco's in my 3 cars with Red Top Optima's. My 99, ordered and purchased 8/99 with 149,000 miles is on it's 3rd RED Top.
So please don't tell me that they are not a great battery.
I've been using Optima Batteries for 15 years. I have them in both of my cars, and one I use as a 12V DC battery supply in the garage , its 9 years old and still does the job.
I bought a red top for my C5 in 2004, it never gave me any grief, I replaced it in 2011, not because it died, but because it was 7 years old. during that time I never once put a trickle ( float )charger on it or had to use a charger. A charger can be the kiss of death for an Optima Gel type battery. Chargers with a gel or agm switch are not good for an optima battery, their charge demand is very low and even a float charger with a switch can ruin one. I never had to use a charger in the winter on either of my cars, and never had a start problem. People here sometime want to do what they think is the best thing for their car. unfortunately, much like your portfolio, its much better leaving it alone , than it is to keep messing with it.
I know hundreds of people who use a Red top without issue. you will see lots of them here in photos, which have nothing to do with their battery, just a shot of their engine.
It's too funny reading all the posts about how long an Optima can last as if spending the premium is required to have a long lasting battery. I'll likely be replacing the 7 year old Walmart battery in my Vette this year because I loaned it to my Uncle and he left it sitting dead for weeks so it's now not holding a charge very well. It'd still be fine otherwise.
I find it sad that even after all of the problems with lead acid batteries found on this forum over the last 12 years. Considering the PCM is directly below it and GM even recommends a Gel or a Matt battery. Bill Curlee has seen hundreds of post from people who lost their PCM and all the vacuum lines located directly below the Battery. After all the issues on lead acid batteries for our C5, Its insane that someone would actually recommend a lead acid battery after all the problems a C5 has seen because of the heat generated by and LSX engine., and its effect on a lead acid battery.
Personally Ill pay for the correct battery type and chemistry for my C5
When someone brags about something being cheap, its usually the purchaser who is cheap.
I went to the optima website, and according to them, I need the 75/25 battery. Looked for it on my Amazon prime account, and it was $152.97. Doesn't get any better than that IMO. AZ has that size in a lead acid for $145. No brainer, I ordered it.
Good choice. You'll be fine with that battery. I dont know why there are some who bash optimas on this forum. They are probably the most popular battery for enthusiasts of any make/model.
Good choice. You'll be fine with that battery. I dont know why there are some who bash optimas on this forum. They are probably the most popular battery for enthusiasts of any make/model.
There are lots of people on this forum that give very poor advice as if its something anyone should actually follow. Lots of legends in their own minds here that would not know the difference between open loop and closed loop engine managment. As far as those Walmart batteries with the snap on caps. ( you know the ones that always leak from the snap cap area ). That has to be about the worse idea anyone would use for the placements sensitive C5 Battery. But then there are all kinds of people here. Some that know what they are talking about, and some that think they know something about this car. Buying a cheap lead acid battery for a C5 and justifying it because it's cheap has to be one of the dumbest things I've heard in my 13 years here.
Last edited by Evil-Twin; May 16, 2014 at 11:35 AM.
I guess the GM engineers sucked at their jobs since the car came from the factory with a flooded lead-acid battery. The opinions from certain people are hilarious when you realize how strongly they believe certain things must remain the way they came from GM because that was how the car was engineered, yet then for certain parts they believe it must be changed since the factory way isn't acceptable.
What does a battery have to do with open loop vs closed loop engine management? It takes a special kind of "legend in his own mind" to post a big rant going on about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the thread. The forum is just better off when these legends just respond to their millions of PM's instead of posting on the public forums.
Now the off-topic crap in this thread has caused me to post insulting comments not directed at anyone to circumvent the forum rules. Wonder who I learned that practice from?
Last edited by lionelhutz; May 16, 2014 at 12:47 PM.
So who are you actually talking about???get it out in the open
Originally Posted by lionelhutz
I guess the GM engineers sucked at their jobs since the car came from the factory with a flooded lead-acid battery. The opinions from certain people are hilarious when you realize how strongly they believe certain things must remain the way they came from GM because that was how the car was engineered, yet then for certain parts they believe it must be changed since the factory way isn't acceptable.
What does a battery have to do with open loop vs closed loop engine management? It takes a special kind of "legend in his own mind" to post a big rant going on about something that has absolutely nothing to do with the topic of the thread. The forum is just better off when these legends just respond to their millions of PM's instead of posting on the public forums.
Now the off-topic crap in this thread has caused me to post insulting comments not directed at anyone to circumvent the forum rules. Wonder who I learned that practice from?
It is good to see there are passionate Vette owners on here. I to am strongly opinionated when it comes to maintenance on such a beautiful work of art.
I believe the GM engineers no doubt used a lead acid battery because of cost restraints. Also, they would want to use a genuine AC Delco part vs. sourcing another manufacturers product where possible. That would be like telling the world; GM batteries aren't as good as... you get the point.
At any rate, technology always wins out in the end. For those that want to use a L.A. battery, surely they know the risks. It may be a lesser risk of spillage than it was when are cars were built, but nonetheless no one can deny it still exists. A sealed battery is the way to go when you are in the vicinity of sensitive electronics, for obvious reasons. Now, in the event of a case breach, a glass mat battery or a gel battery would be preferable again for obvious reasons. But hey. If you don't have the funds, well then you are in the same boat as those GM engineers...
It is good to see there are passionate Vette owners on here. I to am strongly opinionated when it comes to maintenance on such a beautiful work of art.
I believe the GM engineers no doubt used a lead acid battery because of cost restraints. Also, they would want to use a genuine AC Delco part vs. sourcing another manufacturers product where possible. That would be like telling the world; GM batteries aren't as good as... you get the point.
At any rate, technology always wins out in the end. For those that want to use a L.A. battery, surely they know the risks. It may be a lesser risk of spillage than it was when are cars were built, but nonetheless no one can deny it still exists. A sealed battery is the way to go when you are in the vicinity of sensitive electronics, for obvious reasons. Now, in the event of a case breach, a glass mat battery or a gel battery would be preferable again for obvious reasons. But hey. If you don't have the funds, well then you are in the same boat as those GM engineers...
Peace out!
Let's add to that thought.....the GM engineers used a lead acid battery because THE ACCOUNTANTS told them it would save $5 per car....