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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 11:30 AM
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Waiting on a set of shorter prods from Smith Brothers; meanwhile new engine started, 70psi oil pressure, all is well except pushrods are keeping valves off seats. Started new engine on the stock 85mm maf, how will I know if I need to replace with larger unit? New engine is 383, fast 102 and AFR 215 large port heads both massaged by Tony, Jesel shaft rockers, NW 102 tb, 227/231 lsl Comp with full exhaust. Thank you
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I would not run an engine with the valves not seating. Good way to burn a valve, and any backfiring can cause damages. When you start an engine with a new cam, there is a specific break-in procedure. You don't want to idle a new cam. I would wait till the new pushrods come in before you wipe out a cam lobe.
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How will I know if the 85mm AMF is maxed out? That is the question?
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How will I know if the 85mm AMF is maxed out? That is the question?
Yup! My bad... I couldn't help myself when i initially cringed. Won't happen again good Sir!
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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 04:01 PM
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Not sure if this will help you or not, but IIRC, you need a tool such as a lab waveform scope to be able to read the output frquency on most modern MAF sensors. It will let you know if your MAF output signal is maxed out prematurely.

Older MAF's, you could measure the voltage. 5V being max.

Probably easier, but not necessarily cheaper (IDK) to go aftermarket MAF once intake, injector, porting, cam etc... changes become radical enough to warrant a MAF increase.

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Old Jun 5, 2014 | 04:04 PM
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How will I know if the 85mm AMF is maxed out? That is the question?
You're nowhere near maxing it out.... Add another 200-300HP and then ask again.
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Stock ls2 MAF is less restrictive. With the 102 tb and intake, higher flow heads and 383 cubes, I would gestimate 15-20 more hp with the ls2 MAF. Just my .02.
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He has the larger AMF MAF thing.

You would log the car with HPTuners or similar and read the freq and airflow directly.
The limit is 12 kHz. And that limit is set by the PCM.

I hit just a touch over 11 kHz. I'm at maybe 450 rwhp. Never been to a dyno. But have logged a couple hundred drag strip runs

Guys switch to the later card style MAF when the stocker runs out of airflow.

Good luck with those Oregon pushrods.

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My mistake, I was thinking of the earlier MAF. Compared to the ls2 my original 75mm was restrictive.
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Those were tiny for sure!
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