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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 08:34 AM
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I have been identifying and cleaning my grounds for a few days now with varying degrees of what I determine success and failure.

I have not found corrosion in any bus connectors and have had dash lights and DIC codes disappear only to return after messing with a different ground point. C1214

I have used di-electric grease but in searches have read not to use it.

I have considered cutting out the bus connectors and soldiering the wires into a big copper ring lug but in searches have read not to do this.

The last thing I want to do but I know I am capable of doing is fixing the cold soldiers in the ECBM module.

I mainly want to get input about the di-electric grease and the ring lug for the bus grounds.

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I don't have any experience, unfortunately...but I do have a c1214 code that popped up after I pulled the car out of storage that I need to diagnose, and I'm curious what others think.
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I don't have any experience, unfortunately...but I do have a c1214 code that popped up after I pulled the car out of storage that I need to diagnose, and I'm curious what others think.
Just do a search on that code and you can read all day long into the night and through the week.

I just do not want to do the fix it requires at this moment.
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There's almost too much information out there. I want to start with the grounds and then work my way up to fixing the EBCM itself...but I suspect that's the culprit anyway.
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^^Exactly my point^^^

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There's almost too much information out there. I want to start with the grounds and then work my way up to fixing the EBCM itself...but I suspect that's the culprit anyway.
This is what I have been doing with moderate sucess.
Starting with the grounds.

I realize that I need to do the cold solider fix of my ECBM, but I want to clean all the di-electirc grease that I applied to my grounds but have read is not conductive. Then getting rid of the bus connectors.

I just wanted to know who has cut the plugs out and went hard wire.
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Originally Posted by DetroitPlac
I don't have any experience, unfortunately...but I do have a c1214 code that popped up after I pulled the car out of storage that I need to diagnose, and I'm curious what others think.
Missed your Post here. Please start a new Thread and we'll look into your issue.

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Originally Posted by drtyTshrt
This is what I have been doing with moderate sucess.
Starting with the grounds.

I realize that I need to do the cold solider fix of my ECBM, but I want to clean all the di-electirc grease that I applied to my grounds but have read is not conductive. Then getting rid of the bus connectors.

I just wanted to know who has cut the plugs out and went hard wire.
Yea, I'm curious about this as well. If I can just hard wire and avoid a bunch of worthless trouble-shooting, I'd be happy.
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Missed your Post here. Please start a new Thread and we'll look into your issue.

Mr. Sam
I haven't even started diagnosing it. As soon as I started the car up after winter, BOOM service stability/ABS and pulled the 1214 code. I've driven it a number of times since and it's not going away. This is the first thread I've seen where someone suggested hard wiring, and I'm curious to see the outcome. I may create a new thread if I run into issues as I dive into mine.
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Originally Posted by drtyTshrt
This is what I have been doing with moderate sucess.
Starting with the grounds.

I realize that I need to do the cold solider fix of my ECBM, but I want to clean all the di-electirc grease that I applied to my grounds but have read is not conductive. Then getting rid of the bus connectors.

I just wanted to know who has cut the plugs out and went hard wire.
I only use dielectric grease "around" a circuit connection which can be good to reduce moisture intrusion. Many people use it "in" the current path with the idea that the contact surfaces will "wipe them clean of dielectric. Not saying that is wrong, I just don't do it.
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Originally Posted by dadaroo
I only use dielectric grease "around" a circuit connection which can be good to reduce moisture intrusion. Many people use it "in" the current path with the idea that the contact surfaces will "wipe them clean of dielectric. Not saying that is wrong, I just don't do it.
This is where I am leaning.
Lucky1234(I think that his #s) the Tech guy is the trusted one that got me going in this direction.

Thanks for your replies your posts have helped me as well.
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Old Apr 7, 2015 | 03:11 PM
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I have used di-electric grease but in searches have read not to use it.
use an anti corrosion grease or spray.

usually found in electrical or marine/boat stores.

most people have the misconception that since DG has the word "electric" in it, it's meant for all electrical applications.

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Lowes has a anti corrosion grease with aluminium in it...I used it, also cut and replaced/soldered all new eye ground connectors. Also made a ground harness the goes from the left front (over the original) all the way around to the neg. ground at the battery, (one solid Connection) then to the front right..I then purchased the saccity wiring upgrade kit..YEA overkill..
Have never had another problem with my electrical's...And everything works better then ever.......Vette ground system's $%#&#&#...JMO
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Dielectric grease works well around connections to keep the moisture out. The only place I would use it is on bulb sockets, and of course all of the rubber weather seals around the car as recommended by GM.

As far as grounds go I may put some grease over them to keep condensation out only after I was sure that I had the best possible connection. I would solder them, if you can manage enough heat.
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. I would solder them, if you can manage enough heat.
There is my issue.
I do not like my gun on big jobs and I do not have a big iron.

i am considering the butane mini torch.
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You guys arent looking to hard for the c1214 isses becasue most threasd lead to the how to below.it's easy and free..May wanna start looking at the stickys up top to for other common issues

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-fleabay.html
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