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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 05:52 PM
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my headlights pop up and close randomly. the lights don't come on when they do this. the twilight is off. they stay up from 2 seconds to an hour and sometimes they open and close 3 or 4 times in one minute. ive turned the lights on then back off while the door is up and it does nothing. after I turn the car off it takes 1 to 10 minutes before they close. this happens about 80% of the time I drive it. it looks like crap with the doors up and lights off. so I end up driving with the lights on all the time. help please. by the way its a 99 coupe z51 6 speed

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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 10:50 PM
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My 99 does the same thing. I'm thinking that the switch is starting to fail to make full contact when turned off. Try putting a little pressure on the switch by twisting off and holding to see if they stay down, mine stays down when I do that. That why I believe it is the switch.
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Old Jun 4, 2015 | 10:56 PM
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My 99 does the same thing. I'm thinking that the switch is starting to fail to make full contact when turned off. Try putting a little pressure on the switch by twisting off and holding to see if they stay down, mine stays down when I do that. That why I believe it is the switch.
I will try that. thank you.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 07:59 AM
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The MF switch is the most probable cause and is a known bad actor. Much less likely that it would be a random action by the BCM or the Headlight Module.

The circuits for the lights and the door motors are separate so that can explain why just the doors actuate and not the lights.

Bullymp's experience supports that.

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I don't have the schematics at the moment but I'm pretty sure there is an "off" contact in the headlight switch that feeds either a ground or a power signal to the headlight door motor control module. So, if that contact is failing the module won't get a proper "down" signal from the headlight switch.
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Old Jun 5, 2015 | 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by dadaroo
The MF switch is the most probable cause and is a known bad actor. Much less likely that it would be a random action by the BCM, IPC, or the Headlight Module.

The circuits for the lights and the door motors are separate so that can explain why just the doors actuate and not the lights.

Bullymp's experience supports that.
What's a MF switch? I am still a little acronym illiterate...
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Multifunction. Also known as the headlight/turn signal stalk.
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Old Jun 6, 2015 | 08:09 AM
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The MF switch provides the ON and OFF input directly to the HL module to open and close the doors under normal (non Twilight Sentinel) use.

When Twilight Sentinel is used then Relay 44 provides the ON input to the HL module just ahead of the MF switch since the MFS is still in the HL OFF position. The OFF input to the HL module is still provided from the MF switch once Relay 44 opens and terminates the ON input to the HL module.
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