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Old Sep 3, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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Hey guys thanks for all your help with my column lock problem. I have just gotten the dealer to replace the column lock under the recall after having to go to GM customer care. The Column lock Bypass that I got will prob. work but the BCM needs to be replaced. COH has been a great help and told me that sometimes when the column lock goes out that the BCM gets fried. They sent me a replacement CLB anyway just to make sure I didnt get a defective one. The even overnighted it to me at no charge. I guess I have to pay for the new BCM about $430.00 from the dealer even though it was a recall part that caused it to fail. The dealer should have the column lock replaced Wed. morning and then they can start on the BCM Thanks again.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 05:02 AM
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Anthony,

I had the recall work performed on my car, and as a result, no longer need a by-pass. My steering wheel now turns freely with the ignition switch in the off position and the key removed. However, my car is an automatic. If yours is a MN6, reinstalling your by-pass is probably a good idea. If, on the other hand you have an A4, it's a waste of time and you don't need it.
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Old Sep 4, 2002 | 07:43 AM
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I have just gotten the dealer to replace the column lock under the recall after having to go to GM customer care.
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 10:09 AM
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Ok, it finally happened to me this morning so I'll start paying attention to these posts!

Whats the quick answer. My car is still under warranty.

1. Do I let the dealer have a shot at?
2. Is it true that the CLB won't work after the dealer does their thing?
3. If I unlock the column, can I just cut the power wires to the solenoid?
4. If cutting the wires won't work, what about putting a dummy load across them?
5. Screw the dealer and just get the CLB.

Thanks

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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 07:20 PM
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Been there done that. Took my new(3days) 99 magred coupe, on annual golf trip to show it off. Upon arriving, someone said we need to go to the liquor store, I was voted to go. Got in the vette started it, wheel would not turn. Car towed in, took all weekend, part had to be shipped from Jacksonville Fla, buddies died laughing. When recall came out, I carried it back and had it replaced again, just to make sure.
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 07:27 PM
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some GM techs say that the bypass will blow the BCM so be carefull.
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Old Sep 11, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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I've had mine in for about 2 yrs. (only 8800 mi. though) and all is fine but I've read that there's not enough juice going through the bypass and it causes the BCM to fail at the contacts.
I'll have to get around to looking into the situation.
My 2000 was not part of the recall.
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 09:13 AM
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Are all C5's susceptible to this, or only certain years?
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 09:43 AM
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Default Re: Column lock update (Manny Jagerfeld)

WOW Manny, Thanks for the info!!

I had a whole list of items waiting to get checked out before the car runs out of warranty. I decided to let the dealer do the work. Now I need to decided if I should leave the car with them, or hang around for the day.

I'm gonna let them do the column lock, then I'll remove the connector and attach it to a relay. Motor power will trigger the relay, and the relay contacts will give the computer the status info.

If anyones interested, the other things on my list are:

Drivers seatbelt occasionally sticks and can't be extended.
Rocking seat (was bad, but reposition of seat stopped it)
High Idle
Cold air on feet in winter.

Decided not to let them disassemble everything to fix the cold feet problem, but will have them write it up for the record. He offered to do a top end flush since my cleaning of the throttle body reduced the high idle. Then I found it wasn't going to be covered under warranty so I told him to forget it.

Thanks
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Thanks Manny. Suppose you'll be waiving goodbye to the sun in Sweden pretty soon.
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Old Sep 13, 2002 | 08:35 AM
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Default Re: Column lock update (Manny Jagerfeld)

I got my car in May of 2000. I think that recall was announced the same month, and I assumed my car was built with the fixed assembly. It feels more like something to do with the mechanism that locks the beld under hard braking.

After thinking about it, I'm kind of unhappy that the dealer wanted to charge me to fix the high idle problem (suggested top end cleaning). I'm going to have him document the problem and I'll bump it up a level (of course, it will be after he does all the other work)

There is a recall on that too, to a certain range of VINs. The belt outlet, on the retractors top (on the floor), will be changed to a smaller, not to permit belt-twisting and make it stuck, which happened with the old type of top. (If this is what happens to your belt when you have it stuck.
Thanks again!
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 08:56 AM
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Well, left the car with the dealer yesterday. Picked it up at the end of the day and they said "no column lock codes stored in the computer so we couldn't change it". Cripes, we talked about that when I dropped it off in the morning. Wish I had known they were going to do anything.

Seatbelt ordered, they'll call me when it gets in. Think I'll see if they'll let me install it.

Replaced seat mechanism (I think it rocks more now than the way I brought it in). Now have grease on carpet behind seat.

They said amount of oil in plenum is normal.

I'm pretty unhappy with the way it went. Very glad I didn't let them fix the cold air on feet problem. Our club uses this dealerships shop once a month for our "shop nights". The service manager usually stays around. I'll be sure to let him know about it.
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Old Sep 18, 2002 | 06:33 PM
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Default Re: Column lock update (Rx7Rob)

Seatbelt ordered, they'll call me when it gets in. Think I'll see if they'll let me install it.
Unfortunately, if it is warranty or recall work then they will not let you do the work yourself. I already ran into that roadblock with a couple of items on my Vette. This happened with more than one dealer too, I asked if I could just get the part from them, pay them, and do the work myself but they said that it is against GM policy for anyone but a trained GM mechanic to do any warranty or recall work on a GM automobile and if they let me (or any non-trained GM mechanic not employed at that dealership the car was brought to) do the work then GM could suspend their license and they would not take that risk.

Bummer.
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