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Have an issue and could use some input. My 2000 coupe came with some dual cone intake installed. I have no idea what system it is, and can't find any markings, and can't google up anything that is close. The filters that were on it need replacing, very old and more than a few dings on them. The problem is those filters were kind of stuffed into the car, and just barely fit. They are K&N but no part number, just marked "F030A6", which doesn't help me find out the specs. Regardless, I need to find filters that will fit with a 2 3/4" flange inside diameter, and cannot find anything available. Do any of you with dual cones use filters with a 2 3/4" flange, and if so what filters are you using?
Second question is has anyone ever seen a dual filter kit that has all black plastic ducting? I can try to get some pictures of it but I was not able to look up any kit that matches this. I'm thinking of ditching the dual cones and putting on a good single filter system, but right now I need to get the car running and it's current filters are about dead. Any help is appreciated!
I didn't catch that Spectre had reducers, I'll have another look. Their 2.75 filters were either too wide or too small, I'll look at the 3". Thanks for the tip. Is there any standard or common duct diameter for dual cone installations?
Is any of this mess stock? Those filters are really crammed in there, and they have some screen damage from hitting the top, underside of the front end. They are a 5.5" diameter and 6" length. Huge!
It looks mostly stock from the MAF sensor on back. The rubber boot that is fastened to the throttle body looks aftermarket and probably came with the intake. The OEM one looks like an accordion and may be more restrictive.
Loosen the clamp on the front of the MAF sensor and pull that Y and filters pipe out. You could shorten the left and right sides of the Y with a saw so that it fits better.
You can clean the filters and oil them then reuse them.
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Originally Posted by Rob 02
It looks mostly stock from the MAF sensor on back. The rubber boot that is fastened to the throttle body looks aftermarket and probably came with the intake. The OEM one looks like an accordion and may be more restrictive.
Loosen the clamp on the front of the MAF sensor and pull that Y and filters pipe out. You could shorten the left and right sides of the Y with a saw so that it fits better.
You can clean the filters and oil them then reuse them.
Well, those filters are drying out and then will get oiled, I'll have to use them until I find a permanent solution. Good idea about cutting the tubes, I didn't think of that. I could probably find a smaller diameter but longer filter... or just gut the whole thing for a real system.
Wow that Y tube is VERY long. I haven't seen that before and for sure looks like something someone pieced together. Spectre does offer a nice conical round filter but I don't think it's diameter is smaller than what you have. Looks like from one of the pics you have an aftermarket hood seal on the front fascia too which is usually installed to keep debris out of that area. There is a lot going on there for sure. Like Rob said you have a few aftermarket couplers there and looks like the throttle body one has been cut slightly to accommodate the air bridge.
You may be able to cut the "neck" of the Y down a bit which would bring the whole assembly further "up" the car. That would allow you to potentially run Spectre filters. Another thing is you could probably cut the "Y"'s back nearly fully so the filters sit at a near 45 degree angle to the neck That might clear the hood but you'd have to really measure. A few aftermarket dual cones run a filter setup like that as it allows one to run the really long filters.
Originally Posted by viffer
I didn't catch that Spectre had reducers, I'll have another look. Their 2.75 filters were either too wide or too small, I'll look at the 3". Thanks for the tip. Is there any standard or common duct diameter for dual cone installations?
Yeah people may not give Spectre credit where it's due but they quickly realized that a wide filter market was a good sale. Lots of import (and a good deal of domestic) owners run their parts store products and they've tried to cover the entire market.
Thanks for the input guys. I like the idea of cutting down the tubes, but may have a issue with that too. The left tube has an air connection pretty near the end. Its molded out from the tube, not a drilled hole connection. Would hardly be able to cut any off without causing another circumstance to fix.
Next 'Vette will be bone stock, with my upgrades only!
You can find original air boxes on eBay. Some years are a bit restrictive but there are things you can do to make them breath better. If your car's PCM was tuned for a CAI then you probably want to stick with something with the same flow.
I bought one of these and it shipped in like new condition with a new filter. I intend to drill holes in the cover. http://www.ebay.com/itm/381642052416?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
As far as the air tube on yours; maybe you can plumb it in somewhere else of give it its own little filter (like a CCV filter).
Well, I'm going to have to spend $80-$100 for two filters at a minimum it seems for this current setup. One possibility I just came across is this Airaid filter:
Supposedly drops right in, as long as my MAF clamp diameter is standard stock size. $180 for a one time fix, and a lot less than redoing everything with a complete system. Does this sound reasonable or am I missing something? I don't need any specific type of filter arrangement, just one that is functional and easy to service. Thoughts?
Pretty often someone in the C5 parts for sale section is getting rid of a Vararam CAI... it is one of the only true COLD air systems and they work really well... a bit of a pain to install but well worth it... that is where I got ours for $120
Looks like this one is still for sale... make him an offer
A threaded brass insert with a pipe fitting from somewhere like Home Depot would work to hold that hose. You could drill a new hole further up, install the brass insert, black silicone it up, and throw a hose clamp on the hose.
This was the CAI I was thinking of. This is the Volant;
When you add a Hot air Intake, you may make more noise but often loose 5hp. If you are going to spend money for a performance item you should up to a true Cold air Intake--VeraRam, Calaway, etc.
When you add a Hot air Intake, you may make more noise but often loose 5hp. If you are going to spend money for a performance item you should up to a true Cold air Intake--VeraRam, Calaway, etc.
Understood. However, I can only think a better system than whats going on in there right now will not lose any more power than it already is making, and maybe pick up a pony or 2? Besides, I am only trying to get a better system in place and spend as little as I can to do so. Down the road, maybe, but right now I just need to replace this filter situation. Also this car is my daily driver and work commuter all summer long. It gets driven rain or shine, and keeping the rain off the filters as much as possible is probably a good idea for this car.
Velocity Vette- Is that Volant kit fastened down somehow or is it all just lying in place? Seems to be a simple drop in swap, but it is $80 more than that Airaid kit.
Thanks for the link. All of those have a 6" diameter, and most have the 3" flange inside diameter. These things are a 5.5" diameter with a 2.75" flange. I'm thinking that they must be pretty old and K&N must have changed the specs since they were made. It would take a 5" or less max diameter to fit without causing screen damage I think, and I couldn't find any from K&N.
I really need this car running, so I think for the fastest and easiest fix I'm going to only pull the Y tube and filters out and drop in the Airaid filter. Everything else should stay in place, as easy as it could get. At some point when I have more time I may do more. I appreciate the input guys, thanks!
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dual intake issue, idea's?
