Budget Interior Sound Desdening
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Drifting
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Budget Interior Sound Desdening
I love my C5 and all, but HOLY ****, there is not much if any sound deadening from exterior road noise. Last spring I added some heat insulation on and around the center console to reduce the heat that builds along the center of the car. This spring I am adding a new head unit.
I would like to reduce some of the exterior road noise. I need some budget minded solutions, along with areas in the car I should concentrate on for sound deadening where the treatment will have the most impact.
Has anyone done something like this, and what was your solution for a budget minded?
I would like to reduce some of the exterior road noise. I need some budget minded solutions, along with areas in the car I should concentrate on for sound deadening where the treatment will have the most impact.
Has anyone done something like this, and what was your solution for a budget minded?
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Use Frost King Duct insulation available at Home Depot
Wheelwells and trunk floors are sources of noise
Home insulation in the wheel wells
1 layer only of the duct insulation or wheelwell won't fit
back in
Wheelwells and trunk floors are sources of noise
Home insulation in the wheel wells
1 layer only of the duct insulation or wheelwell won't fit
back in
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I too considered the budget sound deadening route however, as I got into the project, the "while I'm in there" bug got me.
I also did a fair amount of research prior to this project and wound up augmenting the project with "FatMat". I'm really glad and happy I did. Really transformed the car.
I also did a fair amount of research prior to this project and wound up augmenting the project with "FatMat". I'm really glad and happy I did. Really transformed the car.
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I just became aware of Frost King Duct insulation. From what I can see, it is a better solution than that tar-based peel and seal. Frost King Duct insulation seems to be based on a butyl rubber 1/8 inch pad with a foil backing, so no tar melting during the hot summer months. I plan to use the Frost King Duct insulation product.
Generally, I will be placing the duct insulation under the carpets covering the trunk floor and rear wheel wells. Is that correct? From one of the photos It looks like you are using the duct insulation on the outside of the wheel well. How will that hold up against the weather and the elements?
Generally, I will be placing the duct insulation under the carpets covering the trunk floor and rear wheel wells. Is that correct? From one of the photos It looks like you are using the duct insulation on the outside of the wheel well. How will that hold up against the weather and the elements?
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I too considered the budget sound deadening route however, as I got into the project, the "while I'm in there" bug got me.
I also did a fair amount of research prior to this project and wound up augmenting the project with "FatMat". I'm really glad and happy I did. Really transformed the car.
I also did a fair amount of research prior to this project and wound up augmenting the project with "FatMat". I'm really glad and happy I did. Really transformed the car.
Drifting
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The duct insulation
The home batt type fiberglass insulation, not so much. It has virtually no sound attenuation capacity. That is why when one wants to sound deaden a wall, special mounting clips, sound deadening materials, and various special installation methods are employed. Just adding R-value batt insulation helps very little. It is not dense enough or constructed in such a manner as to buffer sound. Nor is it attachable in such a way as to interfere with vibration induced harmonics of component surfaces.
Dave
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would seem to be an excellent sound attenuation material.
The home batt type fiberglass insulation, not so much. It has virtually no sound attenuation capacity. That is why when one wants to sound deaden a wall, special mounting clips, sound deadening materials, and various special installation methods are employed. Just adding R-value batt insulation helps very little. It is not dense enough or constructed in such a manner as to buffer sound. Nor is it attachable in such a way as to interfere with vibration induced harmonics of component surfaces.
Dave
The home batt type fiberglass insulation, not so much. It has virtually no sound attenuation capacity. That is why when one wants to sound deaden a wall, special mounting clips, sound deadening materials, and various special installation methods are employed. Just adding R-value batt insulation helps very little. It is not dense enough or constructed in such a manner as to buffer sound. Nor is it attachable in such a way as to interfere with vibration induced harmonics of component surfaces.
Dave
It's stuffed in pretty good and dense and worked great for me.
The Frost King duct insulation is the primary sound deadener.
The batts I had sitting around and it is fine for how much
and where I used it.
The OP wanted budget options.
Racer
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I did some shopping and found for my application, FatMat works and quite well. The product also has favourable reputation and good customer reviews.
More importantly, the product doesn't cost as much as Dynamat.
More importantly, the product doesn't cost as much as Dynamat.
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Yes, effective and budget minded options are primary. I was considering Peel-n-Seal. But lots of people are reporting issues with the tar-based material smelling up their cars in addition to melting of the tar over time.
This Frost King material with its Butyl rubber base material seems much closer to a Dynamat like solution without the Peel-n-Seal problems.
This Frost King material with its Butyl rubber base material seems much closer to a Dynamat like solution without the Peel-n-Seal problems.
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The C5 Corvette and its road noise issues can be improved upon if I can find an effective and price minded solution to sound deadening. So, I has to be an alternative solution or bust.
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Yes, effective and budget minded options are primary. I was considering Peel-n-Seal. But lots of people are reporting issues with the tar-based material smelling up their cars in addition to melting of the tar over time.
This Frost King material with its Butyl rubber base material seems much closer to a Dynamat like solution without the Peel-n-Seal problems.
This Frost King material with its Butyl rubber base material seems much closer to a Dynamat like solution without the Peel-n-Seal problems.
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I did the peel n seal on mine then used vettenuts precut foam kit on top of that. The peel n seal smelled a bit a first but is long gone now. I can post pics when I get home. The peel n seal did the most for sound as its a dense tar
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Nice looking Vette. Love those wheels. Where did you buy the headlights?
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I stopped into my local Home Depot. They had Frost King Adhesive Foil and Foam Insulation in stock, priced at $18.99 per roll. The rolls are 12in. X 15ft X 1/8in. I picked up a couple of rolls. I know, I will not be installing until the weather gets better here in the Mid-West. But, I bought it in order to check the stuff out and see how it sticks, handles, and cuts.
It is pretty dense material, should be perfect for sound deadening. The foil backing should be just right for keeping exhaust system heat out of the car. The price per sq ft is on point. Just over $1.25 per sq. ft. for material that will improve the stock interior sound of the Vette well over what it is now. Great deal; IMO.
Will do a video of the project.
It is pretty dense material, should be perfect for sound deadening. The foil backing should be just right for keeping exhaust system heat out of the car. The price per sq ft is on point. Just over $1.25 per sq. ft. for material that will improve the stock interior sound of the Vette well over what it is now. Great deal; IMO.
Will do a video of the project.
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"I recently added a metallic air gap insulating material under the center console in order to reduce heat from the center hump"
Would you share just what material you used?
Thanks,
Jim
Would you share just what material you used?
Thanks,
Jim
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My plan is to cover the entire rear deck and wheel wells with the material. This is not intended as a perfect solution. This is for me, a budget solution to an otherwise expensive upgrade. To the extent this solution provides deadening (and I believe it will). This will be a victory as this will improve the music listening environment inside the Corvette.
Currently, with no deadening what so ever, it is a horrible music listening space. Yeah, I know, it's a car. Not only that, it's a sport car.
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