C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Is this behavior normal after cam install?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Apr 3, 2017 | 12:20 AM
  #1  
harryk387's Avatar
harryk387
Thread Starter
Pro
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 523
Likes: 90
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default Is this behavior normal after cam install?

Recently had the LG G5XE cam installed and ported and milled the stock LS6 heads on my 2004 C5 Z06. A couple things I've noticed:

1. Sometimes when starting up the car it gets on the verge of not starting. Almost like stuttering before it fully turns over. (Imagine trying to turn on a car with no gas in it, kind of like that)

2. 2nd gear, any time under 1500-2000rpm, I get a ton of surging/bucking. I've noticed in third gear at that rpm it's not as bad. I have noticed that even before the cam I would get that surging/bucking in 2nd gear. Is there something maybe wrong with my transmission? I remember in my 2004 GTO I could idle around a parking lot in 2nd gear no problem at all. It's quite annoying on the freeway in bumper to bumper traffic when I just want to keep it in 2nd gear the entire time.

I thought these were more traits of a big cam, are these normal for a smaller cam like the G5XE?
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2017 | 07:19 AM
  #2  
MBVette's Avatar
MBVette
Race Director
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2001
Posts: 18,236
Likes: 36
From: Haymarket VA
St. Jude Donor '05-'06-'07-'08-'09-'10
Default

Have you had a proper tune done to the car since the cam install?
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2017 | 07:40 AM
  #3  
harryk387's Avatar
harryk387
Thread Starter
Pro
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 523
Likes: 90
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

Yes, it was street tuned and dyno tuned by a reputable shop.
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2017 | 08:00 AM
  #4  
leadfoot4's Avatar
leadfoot4
Team Owner
25 Year Member
Active Streak: 60 Days
Active Streak: 90 Days
Community Builder
 
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 87,315
Likes: 1,585
From: Western NY
Default

Maybe a problem with the fuel pressure regulator.....
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2017 | 06:54 PM
  #5  
harryk387's Avatar
harryk387
Thread Starter
Pro
Photogenic
Photoriffic
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 523
Likes: 90
From: Los Angeles, CA
Default

Originally Posted by leadfoot4
Maybe a problem with the fuel pressure regulator.....
But would that cause that only in 2nd gear?
Reply
Old Apr 3, 2017 | 09:25 PM
  #6  
nsogiba's Avatar
nsogiba
Drifting
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Apr 2015
Posts: 1,893
Likes: 295
From: Buffalo NY
Default

It's all in the tune. A tune after a cam can make or break the daily driving experience. Tuning for WOT is easy, it's the part throttle driveability that is tough.
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2017 | 01:21 AM
  #7  
tblu92's Avatar
tblu92
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,375
Likes: 328
From: CA.
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Default

That's why I am not a fan of dyno tunes on a car driven on the street--All they do is run it up to WOT in 3rd gear and check the AFR and timing only there to produce max HP and TQ
A street driven tune addresses all your starting and P/T drive ability
All the symptoms you describe are easily corrected by a tuner that will take the time to address your issues with a street tune----
Reply
Old Apr 4, 2017 | 05:55 AM
  #8  
2f@s4u's Avatar
2f@s4u
Intermediate
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 47
Likes: 1
Default

It is all in the tune. I just had my car road tuned, two weekends ago, for that same reason. Idle would not hold when the clutch was pressed in. Always died. And I had surging under 2k Rpms at every gear. Now idle is great, perimeters where modified to cruise at every gear 1500-2000rpms , even cruising at 40mph in 6th gear
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-4

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-5

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-6

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-9

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
Old Apr 4, 2017 | 05:57 AM
  #9  
2f@s4u's Avatar
2f@s4u
Intermediate
 
Joined: Jul 2016
Posts: 47
Likes: 1
Default

My tuner said, anyone can tune WOT, but takes some technical know how to road tune for good drivability.
Reply
Old Apr 10, 2017 | 03:12 PM
  #10  
yngbld32's Avatar
yngbld32
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 94
Likes: 10
From: Birmingham AL
Default

I just got a cam installed and it has a high idle. It only has a cam and is only a street car. I can let off the brake and get to 20 mph. Shifts out of 1st on its own. Going back to get it tweaked down.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 03:16 AM
  #11  
Cheesecake 07's Avatar
Cheesecake 07
Racer
10 Year Member
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2012
Posts: 398
Likes: 22
From: Las Vegas NV
Default

Hate to pile on but your tune sounds like its a mess. That should be an easy cam to dial in(even w/o street tuning), excluding any mechanical issues.

Last edited by Cheesecake 07; Apr 11, 2017 at 03:17 AM.
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 03:57 AM
  #12  
Carl Timonen's Avatar
Carl Timonen
Racer
Veteran: Air Force
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 380
Likes: 67
From: Kelso Wa.
Default

Originally Posted by yngbld32
I just got a cam installed and it has a high idle. It only has a cam and is only a street car. I can let off the brake and get to 20 mph. Shifts out of 1st on its own. Going back to get it tweaked down.

Have you considered a higher stall torque converter?
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 10:40 PM
  #13  
tblu92's Avatar
tblu92
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
 
Joined: Aug 2005
Posts: 5,375
Likes: 328
From: CA.
St. Jude Donor '13-'14-'15
Default

Originally Posted by Carl Timonen
Have you considered a higher stall torque converter?
LOL This Z06 has a manual trans
Reply
Old Apr 11, 2017 | 11:29 PM
  #14  
Carl Timonen's Avatar
Carl Timonen
Racer
Veteran: Air Force
 
Joined: Jun 2016
Posts: 380
Likes: 67
From: Kelso Wa.
Default

Dooh!
Reply
Old Apr 18, 2017 | 10:05 PM
  #15  
yngbld32's Avatar
yngbld32
Advanced
 
Joined: Jul 2015
Posts: 94
Likes: 10
From: Birmingham AL
Default

Originally Posted by Carl Timonen
Have you considered a higher stall torque converter?
Yes. That is my next to do. Should have when I put it all back together.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Is this behavior normal after cam install?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:16 PM.

story-0
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-1
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-2
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-4
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-7
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-8
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-9
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE