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Old Jun 23, 2017 | 12:35 PM
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Hi guys, I'm new, and first post. I did work as an automotive diriveability tech for many years, so hopefully my questions and comments won't sound too goofy. I have a 2001 Z06, and it recently leaked out the freon. This took a number of years, with very little driving/use, so I'm assuming it ranks among the world's slowest leaks. Anyway, it worked GREAT when it was working, so I am pretty sure everything is in order. I tried using the easy R134 loading, with only the low side guage the other day. My label says it takes 28 oz. After only about 6, it started working again. I had depressed the low side needle valve before hand, just to see if it hissed, and it did. So I don't know how much was left in the system, when I started the process. It was 100* ambient temperature, and according to my guage, I couldn't get past 40 lbs, even after about 18 oz, which is all I had. It now works wonderfully, but I just wanted to verify from the guys who should know, if these A/C systems are like the others, as far as low side pressure goes. Should I leave it alone, or add more until it comes up to the 45-50 lbs, you would normally see?
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Refrigerant expands with heat and builds more pressure when the ambient temperature is hotter so the pressure varies. I put a meat thermometer in the vent with the windows down, ac on max and engine at operating temperature. The thermometer should read around 42-45 deg F.
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Hey, thanks for the reply. The question here isn't really how well it works. It works exceptional, compared to other automotive A/C systems I've felt. One factor on the low side pressure, has to do with the slow leak. The more I add, the longer it should work, in theory. I just want to know if I can safely add, until I reach 45-50 lbs. If this system is like most others, I should be able to do that.
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A little extra shouldn't hurt if the compressor is in good health. When the temps go up then there is too much.
I have see people over fill the crap out of them thinking more is better. When the temps go up they can't figure out why lol.
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The best way (only real way) to check the amount of 134a in the system is to remove & measure it in an A/C charging station.The machine will allow you to put the correct amount of refrigerant in the system. Another advantage of using a machine is that you will also dry out the system using a high vacuum. That said, it is unlikely that you could have overcharged it using the low side & compressor vacuum.
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Originally Posted by SaltonSea
...I tried using the easy R134 loading, with only the low side guage the other day... ...It was 100* ambient temperature, and according to my guage, I couldn't get past 40 lbs, even after about 18 oz, which is all I had. It now works wonderfully, but I just wanted to verify from the guys who should know, if these A/C systems are like the others, as far as low side pressure goes. Should I leave it alone, or add more until it comes up to the 45-50 lbs, you would normally see?
I, personally, would never blindly add refrigerant just looking at the low side pressure and not knowing what's happening to the high side during the process.

Refrigerant pressures depend not only on the ambient temperature, but also on humidity and the RPMs of the engine.

Take a look at this post. It has detailed instructions to check/add refrigerant and a pressures chart that take into consideration all relevant parameters.
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