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Old Mar 4, 2018 | 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by rrwirsi
My circumstances require me to keep the Vette outside 24/7. When I asked two trusted mechanics about storing it outside and putting a total cover on the car and not driving it for the Winter months both said absolutely no. No cover is best for air circulation in and around the car and driving it at least once a week if weather permits.
EVERYONE busts my ***** about not having a garage or not covering my car. The above statement is EXACTLY why i won't put a cover on my car when it sit's in the driveway all winter. The other reason is, if the roads are clean, snow, ice and salt free I'll take it out for a drive, regardless of how cold it is out.
It's been sitting in my driveway since I got it in Dec 2010 and never covered.
Come spring it gets cleaned up and shines like new.







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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by SG Lou
EVERYONE busts my ***** about not having a garage or not covering my car. The above statement is EXACTLY why i won't put a cover on my car when it sit's in the driveway all winter. The other reason is, if the roads are clean, snow, ice and salt free I'll take it out for a drive, regardless of how cold it is out.
It's been sitting in my driveway since I got it in Dec 2010 and never covered.
Come spring it gets cleaned up and shines like new.







Parking outside hasn't seemed to hurt your C5...looks amazing!
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 07:55 AM
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Parking outside hasn't seemed to hurt your C5...looks amazing!
And contrary to many opinions, the paint did not melt.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 01:29 PM
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Solenoid? Do these people means the relay in the EBCM? It seems that is what get damaged by not working the ABS enough to keep the fluid fresh in the pump area of the BPMV or whatever the pump part is called. As the pump gums up it will start drawing more current and eventually damage the circuit powering it. FYI, the pump is run every time the car is started but no valves are operated so the fluid doesn't get moved. So, actually working the ABS or TC enough to circulate fluid through the pump would be my recommendation.

I don't know why people keep freaking out about the prices posted bygolfnutts. That's probably about right for those parts brand new and INSTALLED.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 02:29 PM
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Originally Posted by SG Lou
EVERYONE busts my ***** about not having a garage or not covering my car. The above statement is EXACTLY why i won't put a cover on my car when it sit's in the driveway all winter. The other reason is, if the roads are clean, snow, ice and salt free I'll take it out for a drive, regardless of how cold it is out.
It's been sitting in my driveway since I got it in Dec 2010 and never covered.
Come spring it gets cleaned up and shines like new.
You have a beautiful car, Lou

When I saw the first picture where it is buried in snow, I couldn't avoid a shudder
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
Solenoid? Do these people means the relay in the EBCM? It seems that is what get damaged by not working the ABS enough to keep the fluid fresh in the pump area of the BPMV or whatever the pump part is called. As the pump gums up it will start drawing more current and eventually damage the circuit powering it. FYI, the pump is run every time the car is started but no valves are operated so the fluid doesn't get moved. So, actually working the ABS or TC enough to circulate fluid through the pump would be my recommendation.

I don't know why people keep freaking out about the prices posted bygolfnutts. That's probably about right for those parts brand new and INSTALLED.
During lunch today the ground was wet from rain and I locked up the brakes and got the ABS traction indication so I am assuming my EBCM is working correctly. I am having the fluid changed tomorrow so hopefully I cleaned out that part of the system. Good info.
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Old Mar 5, 2018 | 09:57 PM
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Originally Posted by JR-01
Code: "TCS 1214 Solenoid Valve Open". A solenoid valve is an electromechanically operated valve. Low voltage can burn out the coil in the solenoid.

What does repeating the code description accomplish?

THE CODE 1214 POINTS TO A RELAY THAT NORMALLY NEEDS RE-SOLDERED OR REPLACED.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-fleabay.html


Most of the time this code first appears intermittently because the solder joints are weak or the relay contact is dirty.
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
What does repeating the code description accomplish?

THE CODE 1214 POINTS TO A RELAY THAT NORMALLY NEEDS RE-SOLDERED OR REPLACED.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-fleabay.html


Most of the time this code first appears intermittently because the solder joints are weak or the relay contact is dirty.
You are right. Relay, not solenoid. I got some wrong info.
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 07:53 AM
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Having a 2000, I try to exercise the EBCM every time I change the oil and off the ground. Put it in gear...gas it to 1000-1200 RPM's for 15-20 seconds. The Vette is driven seven times a week and has a strong battery. 153,000 miles on the clock. Hope the above works.
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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by lionelhutz
What does repeating the code description accomplish?

THE CODE 1214 POINTS TO A RELAY THAT NORMALLY NEEDS RE-SOLDERED OR REPLACED.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...r-fleabay.html


Most of the time this code first appears intermittently because the solder joints are weak or the relay contact is dirty.
Not necessarily. The 01 through 04 cars had C1214 which pointed to the relay. The pre 01 cars had C1214 which pointed to a solenoid valve. Two different failures. You can't assume the codes mean the same thing unless you are talking about the same EBCM design. In the pre 01 EBTCM the relay switches plus 12V power to the pump motor in the BPMV whereas in the 01 and later EBCMs the relay switches the ground coming from the pump motor. The current path in the pre 01s is from the fuse to the EBTCM, to the BPMV to ground. The current path in the 01s and later is from the fuse to the EBCM, to the BPMV pump motor, from the BPMV pump motor back to the EBCM and the relay and from there it goes to ground. The pre modules are not repairable and the after modules only have one part that can be reached to be replaced and that is the relay. Nothing else in the module can be repaired and that is why people who send in a unit with C1214 and take an off the shelf replacement may get one with a different failure. The vendors have no way to tell which failure has occurred in a module so they replace the relay because they can do that and there is a good chance that is what failed as relays are always more failure prone than solid state electronic components.

The relay in the later modules fails because of two reasons. The first is relays are high failure rate items. The second and probably the most common reason for the EBCM relay failure is because the motor turns too slow due to a short from the motor windings to ground. If the short is high resistance replacing a relay with one that can handle higher than planned for current flow can resolve the problem until the pump motor totally fails but it is only a patch and not a final resolution. If the short is low resistance you don't stand a chance of seeing the light go out and stopping warning messages until both the BPMV and EBCM are replaced/repaired. I doubt anybody repairs BPMVs so that means replacing them.

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Old Mar 6, 2018 | 04:21 PM
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How many threads do you see here with failed solenoids causing a C1214 on a pre 01 car?

The most common C1214 failure that occurs is on 01-04 cars and IS the relay or solder joints. The most common fix is resoldering or replacing the relay.

The only failed solenoid threads I can recall were the solenoids being mechanically broken off the circuit board and I have been reading the C5 forum for 10 years. I'm pretty sure the code wasn't C1214.
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