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Old Jul 4, 2018 | 04:51 PM
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The problem started the other day. It is not blowing nearly as cold as it was. I tried to refill the refrigerant but the guage read the pressure in the red, so I tried to relieve pressure but it wouldn’t budge. The compressor seems to be working fine. I noticed the fans weren’t coming on with the AC, but they were still coming on at operating temps. Please help
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Old Jul 5, 2018 | 06:12 PM
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you need to find out why the fans are not coming on with AC on
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If the fans are not on when the vehicle is idling with a low coolant temp (below 200) and a low oil temp (below 200) with the AC turned on it is possible the AC request signal isn't getting through to the PCM. The PCM sends the signals to the fan relay circuit telling it whether it should be on, low speed or high speed. The AC controller in the dash sends grounds the AC request signal that is one of the inputs to the PCM. If that ground isn't being applied then you would have the problem you are describing. However, refrigerant levels can alter what is happening since too much pressure can turn the AC compressor off.

I would say check the fan relays first but C5s are old cars and the wiring can get screwed up due to damage caused by POs and connections will tend to deteriorate with age due to dirt and corrosion so unlike a new car relays aren't necessarily the top concern on a list.

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It's low on refrigerant. Take it to a shop where they can fill it properly. Bit more pricey, but worth it. Plus they can make sure it's not leaking.
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It's low on refrigerant. Take it to a shop where they can fill it properly. Bit more pricey, but worth it. Plus they can make sure it's not leaking.
That was my first thought as well. Poor cooling at low speeds and better at high speeds is a sure indicator of low refrigerant level. However, based on the actions he described he may have overfilled the system and he says the fans don't come on as soon as the AC is selected. I assume he knows whether the fans are coming on or not. If the fans don't come on until the car gets up to operating temp instead of as soon as the AC is turned on that is an indication there is an issue with the signal going from the HVAC controller to the PCM. The PCM has control of the fan relays and if it doesn't know the AC is turned on it won't turn on the fans. It shouldn't make a difference whether the system is over or under charged as far as fan operation. Lack of fan operation at low speed low operating temps would also fit his scenario. If the fans are operating the way they do for engine cooling due to not knowing the AC is turned on his AC cooling could vary up and down while driving at slow speeds.

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Originally Posted by Bill Dearborn
That was my first thought as well. Poor cooling at low speeds and better at high speeds is a sure indicator of low refrigerant level. However, based on the actions he described he may have overfilled the system and he says the fans don't come on as soon as the AC is selected. I assume he knows whether the fans are coming on or not. If the fans don't come on until the car gets up to operating temp instead of as soon as the AC is turned on that is an indication there is an issue with the signal going from the HVAC controller to the PCM. The PCM has control of the fan relays and if it doesn't know the AC is turned on it won't turn on the fans. It shouldn't make a difference whether the system is over or under charged as far as fan operation. Lack of fan operation at low speed low operating temps would also fit his scenario. If the fans are operating the way they do for engine cooling due to not knowing the AC is turned on his AC cooling could vary up and down while driving at slow speeds.

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Had a shop take a look at it. Apparently my compressor spewing metal through the system so I will have to do some replacing. He vacuumed the system twice and it didn’t help at all, guess too much junk is blocking it off.
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