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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 05:22 PM
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I need to replace the starter in my 98 C5. I know I need to move the exhaust pipes out of the way to access. The repair manual says to remove the nuts holding them to the manifold; I've also removed the two bolts holding the pipes to the cross member. There is still not enough movement for them to drop. Am I missing something? Do I need to remove the two bolts holding them up that are located closer to the rear-end? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 05:26 PM
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removing the rear flange nuts should do it !! are you installing a starter with the two long mounting bolts ??? I would !!! (did)
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While trying to move the exhaust pipes, I looked at the starter and it seems there is one long bolt and one short one. Is the one with two long bolts a specialty starter?
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it's a truck starter, try bosch sr8581n it even comes with the other long bolt so you won't have to buy one
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Old Jun 5, 2019 | 08:31 PM
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The flange nuts and the bolts that mount to the cross member should be enough to give some wiggle room to pull the starter out. The starter with the two long bolts is a good idea, some people have experienced a hydro lock condition on their engines which caused a crack on the engine block where the shorter starter mounting bolt is located.
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Special order in my area. Can this be ordered thru Rock Auto with the long bolt?
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google the part number, you can buy it through many retailers... check amazon too, you might be able to get it next day if you have prime

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As mentioned above, it's available on Amazon with free Prime shipping.
<b>Click here</b> Click here
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In these 2 pics of Bosch SR8581N the 2-long-bolt mounting arrangement can be seen in detail, in addition to the included extra bolt:




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I know everyone says this starter is a drop in but I had a problem with it when cold hanging up and didn't feel like measuring engagement and shimming. So I rebuilt my original starter, new solenoid, brushes and starter nose armature bearing and it worked fine. As far a the long bolt I really don't see how it helps, it's a couple force and the clamping force is the same weather it's a long or short bolt. What I believe is improper torque application will break the block ear in, if the threads are clean and proper torque is applied all should be fine the engineer who designed the casting did the numbers with a margin of safety factor.
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Rebuilding the orginal starter is the way to go, I could not find a rebuild kit when I was having starter problems, so I bought the Bosh starter. Many corvette owners have had problems with starters and having to shim them because of engagement issues.
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Is there a certain way to install the long bolt starter or am I missing something. There is a casting "ear" that protrudes from the block that prevents the long bolt starter from being installed.
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Originally Posted by Pounder
removing the rear flange nuts should do it !! are you installing a starter with the two long mounting bolts ??? I would !!! (did)
Is there a certain way to install the long bolt starter or am I missing something. There is a casting "ear" that protrudes from the block that prevents the long bolt starter from being installed.
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Originally Posted by TCvette98
Is there a certain way to install the long bolt starter or am I missing something. There is a casting "ear" that protrudes from the block that prevents the long bolt starter from being installed.
I didn't have any issues at all, (have headers) maybe have the bolt in the starter before you put it in place ???
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Originally Posted by Pounder
I didn't have any issues at all, (have headers) maybe have the bolt in the starter before you put it in place ???
Whether the bolt is in or not the "ear" blocks the starter from seating in the block. Forgot to mention I have an LS1. Do any of the other LS engines have this casting "ear" at the starter site? Can this "ear" be ground off?
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Originally Posted by TCvette98
Whether the bolt is in or not the "ear" blocks the starter from seating in the block. Forgot to mention I have an LS1. Do any of the other LS engines have this casting "ear" at the starter site? Can this "ear" be ground off?
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Its a tight fit but it will go in. Just did it on my LS1 and when i first encountered the "ear" i was like "wth, it's blocked!" but gave it a gentle wack with my hand and it cleared that "ear"and it slipped right into place. May need to be at a certain angle. Replacement starter was the bosch mentioned above.
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Originally Posted by mmartinez
Rebuilding the orginal starter is the way to go, I could not find a rebuild kit when I was having starter problems, so I bought the Bosh starter. Many corvette owners have had problems with starters and having to shim them because of engagement issues.
I have no connection with this vendor except I bought the starter rebuild kit from him and he was great to deal with.
Performance, Inc
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https://alternatorstarterrebuildkits...roduct/pg260l/



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Just curious as to why people go to a 'heavy duty' starter? I'm still running my 2000 LS1 starter, and I have a built high compression LS7 in my C5. It still cranks that 427 over with absolutely no problem.....
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Originally Posted by grinder11
Just curious as to why people go to a 'heavy duty' starter? I'm still running my 2000 LS1 starter, and I have a built high compression LS7 in my C5. It still cranks that 427 over with absolutely no problem.....
Because they mount with 2 long bolts instead of 1 short and 1 long bolt. There is a thread on how the starter can break the block

https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...the-block.html

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