Check this out:

http://www.store.yahoo.com/zipproduc...ullenhead.html

Looks like an alternative to the FLPs! What do you think? :)

 

ttt

Is anyone running these? If so what do think of them???

:cheers:


[Modified by SideStep, 3:57 PM 11/22/2002]

 

I don't know about you, that is one expensive setup.

 

Almost an extra grand.. Their statement :
"The Grizzly has produced excellent horsepower gains of up to 50 HP and torque gains of up to 60 ft/lbs."

I say :bs :yesnod:

 

For $600 more than the FLP's, consider it is all stainless from the header flanges to the rear axle. FLP's are coated steel.

Still a pricey setup, but sure looks nice. The hp and tq figures look seriously bloated, and I would love to see someone install the entire system in 2.5 hrs. :rolleyes:


:cheers:

 

They look pretty cool - but they are Riche Rich pricey.. :eek:

 

as a current owner of FLP's, i'd say get the Grizzly setup for 3 reasons:
1. all stainless steel
2. band clamps
3. looks like they made a better attempt at developing a true 'equal length' header.

If you have the dough, get them. dont get yer hopes up on their advertised gains, however, you will be pleased nontheless. I got 25rwhp/30rwtq with the FLPs. The Grizzly design looks a lot closer to equal length, which will greatly aid in exhaust harmonics, which will bump power more, of course.


[Modified by rwj383, 11:59 PM 11/22/2002]

 

They look :cool: but I'd love to hear some impressions from people who have actually installed & dyno'ed them.

 

Dams that is a lot of money.

 

ttt
Someone must have tried these or knows someone who has.
How long have they been on the market?

 

Frankly these look a bit like a ripoff of LG's header system. If you're going to spend the money for a race quality system, I'd say go with the LG's. In their current iteration the fit and finish is phenomenal, and they WORK.

I've just spent two days at Lou's shop. Everything he says about his work is absolutely true. He's trying to provide the C5 community with race quality work adapted to modified and highly modified street cars. The time and hand work involved in fabricating parts of this quality is substantial, hence the price.

As always, you get what you pay for.

 

For the money there is no better header then the SLPs. They are stainless and coated inside and out. They are "tuned length" headers that really improve performance.

 

You have to remember that FLP and Grizzly header systems don't require any welding, unlike other longtube headers. Also cats and X-pipe are included in the package.

I just want to point out that LGs, SLPs, etc. are no real alternatives to the two systems mentioned above. :nono:

Of course it's (as always) a question what you're looking for! :)

 

Joke

Mav




[Modified by Maverick, 10:17 AM 11/23/2002]

 

Thanks for the replies! :cheers:

Found another picture of the Grizzly. Hope S8R doesn't mind me posting it here! ;)

 

How can you say that there is no comparison to the SLPs? They have a complete, non-weld solution as well for a much better price.

 

OK tabbruzz, you're right: SLP also offer a direct bolt-on solution for anyone looking for headers, hi-flow cats and X-pipe. Thanks for your input!

Here's my personal comparison of the three non-weld header systems:

SLP's system is not sold as a total package. You need to combine headers, installation kit, downpipe, hi-flow cats and X-pipe/resonator. Everything together costs just under $1,900. Only the headers are ceramic coated, the rest isn't. Everything is made of stainless steel though. I think there are too many separate parts you have to combine, resulting in too many connections. Positive: the connections are slip-fit and don't use V-clamps.

FLP's system is made of mild steel and is fully coated, except for the cats which are of uncoated stainless steel. Price is less than $1,600. It's relatively easy to exchange the hi-flow cats for the supplied off-road pipes, made possible by the use of V-clamps. These can cause exhaust leaks if not seated properly. Excellent value for the money, great performance gains!

Grizzlys are quite expensive at $2,250. The system is completely Jet-Hot coated and made of stainless steel. The number of connections (slip-fit) is greatly reduced, band-clamps are used. Straight forward technical design without any gimmicks. Installation time should be relatively short because of this. No realworld experiences concerning fit, finish and performance gains yet. :nonod:



:seeya


[Modified by CR555, 7:19 PM 11/28/2002]

 

Where is the mounting tabs that mount the header to the clutch cover? So in another words the header hangs of the heads with no support from below until you get to the hanger past the x-pipe. For me that is a little to much stress for header bolts.

 

Cool!!!! Thanks for the comparison, the Grizzlys do look like an awesome setup...

 

:yesnod: :yesnod: But its your money...buy if you like tell us how they are.
50 hp :bs 2.5 hrs install :bs
I just installed a set of long tubes....5 hours later I was done. Headers takes about 45 min. it was bolting everything back up that takes a while