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Old Apr 29, 2020 | 01:15 AM
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New LS6 style cam lifters in car and problem is valvetrain sounds like ****, engine have trouble holding rpm up almost engine die, also no power and shudder misfire when appliyng power, engine before cam install ran totally problem free, now i have code P0300.
I have set rockers 22lbs as per several instructions so i know this is ok done twice but still terrible valvetrain noise.
When i installed camshaft i am ” almost ” certain that i got the cam correct against the crankshaft marking but i never did the test of rotating the engine several turns to see if the dots lined up every time stupid me, so my question is this can the engine still run and give these symptoms with the camshaft off by one mark on camgear sprocket chain ?

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Originally Posted by MatsA
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New LS6 style cam lifters in car and problem is valvetrain sounds like ****, engine have trouble holding rpm up almost engine die, also no power and shudder misfire when appliyng power, engine before cam install ran totally problem free, now i have code P0300.
I have set rockers 22lbs as per several instructions so i know this is ok done twice but still terrible valvetrain noise.
When i installed camshaft i am ” almost ” certain that i got the cam correct against the crankshaft marking but i never did the test of rotating the engine several turns to see if the dots lined up every time stupid me, so my question is this can the engine still run and give these symptoms with the camshaft off by one mark on camgear sprocket chain ?

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p300 is miss fire check plugs.and wires

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Wrong length of push rods?
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You generally have to change pushrods after a cam change and that would be my first guess as the core of the problem. Did you measure pushrod length with an adjustable pushrod checker before buying pushrods? The link below has some good pushrod info might be helpful.

https://www.lsxmag.com/tech-stories/...oad-ls-engine/

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tune could be off as well, you can't install a cam and expect it to run perfectly... sometimes it will start and idle decent, sometimes not... did you also change injectors?

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Originally Posted by helga203
p300 is miss fire check plugs.and wires
Plugs are fine, new MSD wires installed, yes i now the P0300 is misfire, got me thinking i maybe could have cam installed slightly off.
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You generally have to change pushrods after a cam change and that would be my first guess as the core of the problem. Did you measure pushrod length with an adjustable pushrod checker before buying pushrods? The link below has some good pushrod info might be helpful.

https://www.lsxmag.com/tech-stories/...oad-ls-engine/
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Wrong length of push rods?
Thanks for the link will check the length i did not do it as it should fit with original pushrod length maybe i have wrong info, problem is that cam is very much like a LS6 cam from Texas speed 550 lift and 218/220 duration and should be going on stock pushrod length according to sources i have, but i will check it.
LS6 pushrod length was it the same as LS1, info i have say it was so ?
I am almost in the process to get into the camgear to check cam installation if i missed that part, a pain to get steering rack out.....i will first check the pushrod length as you suggest sound in valvetrain probably is that issue also maybe.

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tune could be off as well, you can't install a cam and expect it to run perfectly... sometimes it will start and idle decent, sometimes not... did you also change injectors?
Yes car should be tuned, LS1 injectors on the engine, all sources i have say car should run and behave ok as is but would gain much from a proper tune, as it is now it feels like i have a 30% of power and engine sounds like a stone masonry in the valvetrain.
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Looked into more info at LS1tech also and it seems more and more like i have pushrod problem, 243 / 241 heads have different length of valve steams and also Z06 camshaft have different base circle compared to LS1 camshaft so only common thing is 7.40 pushrod length.
Z06 type cam on 241 heads would require longer pushrods i did see some info it would be 7.425 iso 7.40 but i have ordered a pushrod length checker to be sure, thanks for the help.
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Here's a quick tip: Wrap the threads on the pushrod checker with white plumbers tape when you get it. The tape will keep the two halves of the checker from turning too easily allowing you to make more accurate readings. Without the tape, it can be difficult to pull the checker out of the heads without it changing length a little.

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Ok measured length is 7.3 with checker and this is on a motor that have been run so should i add preload to 7.3 or not ?
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