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Old May 27, 2020 | 03:13 PM
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My oil temps get crazy high while driving the car hard on curvy roads. Is this an actual issue or COULD the LTs b getting the sensor area hot and making it look like the oil temps are getting up?

I mean I have seen as high as 285° (not to mention Im running Rotella T SAE 15w-40 Diesel oil in the car per recommendation of Texas Speed) just running the 11 miles of the Dragon staying in 2nd/3rd gear, mainly 2nd. But I thought ya know these cars are sports cars made to be driven or is that just a bunch of BS like they say for the 1LE Camaros and Z51 C8s that they say is track ready but also turn around and say if its damaged they may not honor the warranty.

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Whats the coolant temp? LT's are a pretty common mod, they'll add some heat but shouldn't be running that hot. Only if you're really wailing on it. Might be time for a radiator/EOC.
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190-200. Push it hard enough itll get close to 220. And at the Dragon you can push it hard if ya want! Had an E36 M3 and a Golf R absolutely toast me.
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285 degrees seems too high to me, even driving it as hard as you were.
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The oil temperature sender unit is easily changed, especially with stock exhaust. I might first do that. Here is a video showing changing it with an aftermarket exhaust:


And a good source for one:

http://www.improvedracing.com/oiling...814-p-334.html
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Try to keep the oil between 215*F and 235*F
I never run oil above 240*F in any engine unless its a race for money and I don't care about the engine

Coolant should be 210-225*F

Unless forced inducted, then you want things a bit cooler for the headroom of inevitability

also you should not be red lining it or anywhere close to that unless making an all-out pass on a mile strip or something to set a record

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Try to keep the oil between 215*F and 235*F
I never run oil above 240*F in any engine unless its a race for money and I don't care about the engine

Coolant should be 210-225*F

Unless forced inducted, then you want things a bit cooler for the headroom of inevitability

also you should not be red lining it or anywhere close to that unless making an all-out pass on a mile strip or something to set a record

ummm where did all those numbers come from? Coolant over 200 is hot for GM and I dont redline it but I run it up to red line in the straights but normally stays 3500-4500
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The oil temperature sender unit is easily changed, especially with stock exhaust. I might first do that. Here is a video showing changing it with an aftermarket exhaust:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=edMQqHUz7Vc

And a good source for one:

http://www.improvedracing.com/oiling...814-p-334.html

it has a new sensor in it already.
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Also the sensor for both the oil and coolant come up the same.
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Originally Posted by dskinsler83
ummm where did all those numbers come from? Coolant over 200 is hot for GM and I dont redline it but I run it up to red line in the straights but normally stays 3500-4500
200 is actually around the minimum you want in any modern combustion engine.
Higher temperature improves efficiency, economy, and reduce wear



Most cars including GM run 210-225*F regular operating range.
Remember that sensor position matters. If the sensor is on one side of the engine or the other it may read 10 or 15*F difference than actually what is coming out of the engine.
Likewise some sensors are mounted near the inlet of what the engine is experiencing, not outlet.
So you have to be careful when quoting what number is 'hot' or 'cold'.

I like to see it go in around 188*F minimum and out around 10 or 15*F higher.

Temp rise is inevitable with near-stock cooling equipment and forced induction. So it depends on the application how you set up the cooling system, i.e. if the cooling reservoir is 'small' (not alot of coolant/small radiator etc) and there is no oil cooler to help (oil cooler helps to also control coolant temps and is critical for high performance applications in high temperature settings) then we want an even lower inlet temp to give headroom for the temp rise.




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Hmmmm very interesting. Not what I have been told about these cars, course that cane from the same shop that will no longer return messages etc.

Its just a NA forged 383 with PRC heads and LTs
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Here's how the factory service manual describes cooling fan operation, this is normal operating temps

The low speed cooling fan is commanded on when the coolant temperature reaches 108°C (226°F). It is turned off if the coolant temperature lowers to 104°C (219°F). The high speed cooling fan is commanded on when the coolant temperature reaches 113°C (235°F). It is turned off if the coolant temperature lowers to 108°C (226°F). When the A/C is on and the coolant temperature reaches 85°C (185°F), the low speed cooling fan will be turned on at vehicle speeds less than 56 kPh (35 mph).
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Old May 28, 2020 | 08:34 AM
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Ok so the car is running a 160° thermostat and I assume tuning has been done on the fans but it runs 190° most the time.

Coolant fans arnt this issues. Its oil temp. What do these manuals say about oil temp? I am pretty sure if it hits 285° it will give a message about reducing engine RPM etc.
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