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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 04:46 PM
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So far there have been absolutely no problems. The install is complicated but can be handled by a competent do it yourselfer. Boost seems to come on a little quicker than the ATI and it has a nice whine to it. The ATI has a totally different sound. There are absolutely no belt or heating issues. Pulley swaps are a cinch. Takes all of 5 minutes.
I wanted to put the Vortech on my car just to see what it's all about and then change over to a D1SC Procharger, but I really think I'll keep the Vortech. It's a very well thought out kit.
Retail pricing is very high and there was a lot of bashing about that. Distributor pricing is quite reasonable so we can afford to sell them at attractive prices. Installs should only take a couple of days, particularly after I've done a few more. To this point, I think this is the best package available. I'm sure as time goes on we'll hear more positive feedback about these units.
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 06:05 PM
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:cool:

Any back to back dyno comparisons yet? I think a lot of people would be interested in those numbers.
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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The new Vortech sounds like a great system to buy!! :)

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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 08:55 PM
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ITS ALL THE OTHER STUFF,
Or maybe you can just put it on a stocker and go?
Whats the best package to go with supercharger ?
ex. headers gears torque converter .
low compression heads cam?
It all looks like big bucks before you can even start the supercharger route
any comments would be of interest to me and all :confused: :confused: :confused:
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 09:57 PM
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Aghhh..

You are killing me..
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 10:20 PM
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that is the beauty of putting in a supercharger, you can slap it on a bone stock car with stock intake, exhaust and everything in between and leave it at that or from there, mod all you want... intake, headers, port/polished heads, cam, gears, etc.

with mods like head/cam work... to get the numbers that people have been getting lately, it's a whole system to get 100-150+ hp gain.

for example, a stage 1 head with mild cam and intake may get you 70-90 hp. but to get 100 you're gonna have to add the lt headers and underdrive pulleys. to get 100+hp youre gonna have to get a stage 2 head job with bigger valves and a more agressive cam. again i'm just giving an example and not being exact on the numbers but i'm not too far off.

with a supercharger like a vortech, or ati or mag... with the one mod alone and stock everything else, you're basically adding on 130-150hp in one shot. just like working with nitrous... add bottle and go. whether you want to add the other stuff to maximize output is up to you and depends on how you want to change the overall driveabiity of the car.

with h/c, the higher the hp you want out of a package, the trade-off is ride quality and driveability and possibly reliability. but some people love it loud and lopey. with the s/c only, it basically drives like stock until you get on it and a well designed kit shouldn't compromise reliability. if you start adding to that s/c, then thats different.

when i added a vortech to my mustang, except for gears added too, everything else was basically stock and the driveability and reliability factor was not really compromised and I was happy with a plain 100 boost without any tuning needed. vortech usually designs the system that will increase the hp up to that particular cars reasonable limits to still offer a decent warranty on the system. any more and they say you're on your own which is fair and will most like require bottom end strangthening as well as the rest of the drivetrain.

i could have added more like changing pulley for a bigger hp gain and exhaust and stuff but liked it just the way it was and didn't want to take any more risks.

if i had the dough, the vortech would be my choice of mod and could be happy with that one mod alone. of course if i wanted more later... ;)

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ITS ALL THE OTHER STUFF,
Or maybe you can just put it on a stocker and go?
Whats the best package to go with supercharger ?
ex. headers gears torque converter .
low compression heads cam?
It all looks like big bucks before you can even start the supercharger route
any comments would be of interest to me and all :confused: :confused: :confused:
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Old Nov 28, 2002 | 10:55 PM
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Cool ... I hope the SC's give all that promise once I have the money to get another C5
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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Andy good to hear a report from you on the Vortech. I looked on Vortechs website and they rate their ZO6 kit at 538 hp at the flywheel if you allow for 15% loss in driveline that equates to about 458rwhp. If I'm wrong, correct me. Isn't this about the same as the magnuson? Why is procharger so much higher in HP numbers? Lastly do you prefer the air to air of the ATI or the air to water of the Vortech. I have a ZO6 and am trying to make a decision as to which way to go. :D
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 01:16 AM
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Andy, PLEASE get us some pics :D
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 01:27 AM
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I'm in CA and am looking at the Vortech when it comes out for the '01. Andy, can you email me an install price based on what the 97 looks lie for now? :thumbs:
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 11:47 AM
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Thanks Andy. Ditto on the question of if you have any comments on the performance of the air to air vs. water to air aftercooler. Also, since the MAF is upstream of the SC on the Vortech, how is the air temp monitored downstream of the SC in order to determine correct amount timing advance?
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 12:12 PM
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Any pictures yet??

I should be ordering my S/C from you Andy this spring can't wait. :smash: :D
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 12:23 PM
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Hey Andy! Happy you found the time to get it installed! I know you were itching to get it in when I saw you last.

I look forward to a "demo" when I come by next week for the headers! :D Maybe I will feel obligated to have you drop one in mine... :crazy:

Rodney :thumbs:
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Old Nov 29, 2002 | 01:46 PM
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Andy, living in Denver at 6000 feet, seems like the best answer to get some of my horsepower back with the Vortech supercharger.

Is the boost adjustable to get near the same hp that a LS1 would have with the system installed at sea level?

And, is there a website link that walks you thought the installation of the Vortech. I'ld like to get a better feel of just how mechanical you have to be to install one of these.

Sure seems like it would be the ideal answer for this altitude.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 01:05 AM
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I'm with you. Patiently waiting for the 01 Vortech to come out. That and winning the lottery ;) This is the supercharger I'm going to get.
I'm in CA and am looking at the Vortech when it comes out for the '01. Andy, can you email me an install price based on what the 97 looks lie for now? :thumbs:
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 01:44 AM
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:cool:

I would Love to get a SC some day... :thumbs:

:cheers:
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 02:29 AM
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:cool:

I'd love to see a dyno sheet. :thumbs:
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 01:50 PM
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I'd love to see a dyno sheet. :thumbs:
And some pics :thumbs:
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 07:40 PM
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The only one not available is the 98 - 2000 because the ABS box is in the way. I have sold a couple to guys with '01s and they are working just fine. Tuning is done with LS1 Edit or mail order or a local dyno tune if available. The tuning available from Vortech is for a BONE STOCK car anyway. Most guys have at least headers and need to have different tuning anyway. My car has headers and amild cam . so I used LS1 Edit.
The main reason the Vortech only claims 538 HP is that they are using a Mustang dyno. Although they are actually more accurate, they do read considerably lower than a Dyno Jet.
I really think that there is a sane limit to this HP thing anyway. My car is just ferocious. I may be able to pick up a couple of HP with a Procharger, but I really don't want to. I have to be very careful with the throttle as it is.
Is the water to air better or worse? I really don't know. I will tell you that after some spirited driving, the air inlet and throttle body are very cool to the touch. I don't think heat is an issue.
Both blower setups are great in their own way. Either one, on a stock vehicle, makes a HUGE difference. You don't lose streetability like you would with a large cam - head setup. I just wen't with a 220 cam and have the best of both worlds. Adding a cam and heads to a supercharger is a big plus but not totally necessary. I would suggest headers , though.
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Old Nov 30, 2002 | 07:44 PM
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Andy:
Can you describe the V2-SQ sound a little more?
A jet engine can sound kinda cool.
Sleeper mode is nice tho also.

Any chance for a sound clip?
A 91-92db D1-SC and some light dynamat xtreme soundproofing of the hood is probably the way I should go.

Thx!
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