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Old Dec 10, 2002 | 10:28 AM
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Default Tire Pressure Sensor Life Expectancy

I remember reading somewhere that the life expectancy of the tire pressure sensor battery is about 5 years...that should mean that a lot of '97 C5's will be heading to their tire store/dealer to have them replaced (even if your tires are in great shape...what PITA to go through the changeout).
Am I wrong about the life of the sensors?
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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 12:30 AM
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I read from another post that they are supposed to last 10 years, but I have already replaced one. Go figure
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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 12:49 AM
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5 years is about right... we are starting to see more failures. And they don't go out all at once. So, conceivably you could be making trips to the dealer. Too bad they didn't put a battery door on them. It would still a pain to change the battery but the expense to do so would be much less.
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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 07:08 AM
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The video that came with the GM 1997 Introduction Press Kit has a section on the "new run-flat" tire and sensor system used on the C5. The engineer doing to segment states they were designed to last 8 years. So 5 to 10 seems to be a good ball park window.

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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 02:08 PM
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I wonder if the variance relies upon the mileage/use/rotation....? Would a sensor on a car w/ 3k miles last longer than one w/ 30k miles?
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Old Dec 11, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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I didn't know they had a battery, but I guess it makes sense.
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Old Dec 16, 2002 | 05:27 PM
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how much does it cost to have the dealer replace this sensor?
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 12:05 PM
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I wonder if the variance relies upon the mileage...
Yes, it does.
The circuit is switched on when driving :steering:, and is switched off when standing still.
There is a motion sensor doing that.
So battery life is a function of calendar time and driving time. :yesnod:
That doesn't seem true of the newer style 01'+ sensors? :confused:
Mine seems very accurate at start up, after a night or longer in the garage. A friends 99' seems to read what ever the pressure was at prior shutdown and does not read accurately until he drives a bit.
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 02:58 PM
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...That doesn't seem true of the newer style 01'+ sensors? :confused:
Mine seems very accurate at start up,..
This thread is discussing the variance in battery life of the sensor.
Which the subject line also indicates. As well as the initial post.

Battery life has nothing to do with the accuracy of the pressure sensing circuit, as I assume you think off.
My post was not referring to the accuracy of the pressure reading. The point is that I think you are wrong about the switching etc. on the newer style sensors (which Mark S. is referring to, as he has an 01') and if you don't know or don't want to answer the question, then just say so. I don't need your lecture on forum rules........
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 05:07 PM
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Thanks Manny :cheers:

But I am sill confused as to how my, second design, works. I have checked it several times. At startup, without moving the car at all, my sensors read the current air pressure. Not what they were at shut down, as if shut down the night before and allowed to cool.

I only continue this direction of discussion as to wonder whether the newer style might operate longer than the first generation?
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 05:59 PM
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Ken,

I read somewhere that the newer style ('01 and beyond) sensor, has a better/longer lasting battery. This enabled them to get rid of the switch and make the sensor smaller. The sensor is on all the time. I would imagine that the sensor just updates the car's computer every so many seconds, instead of putting out a constant signal when rotating like the old sensors. This would make the sensor last longer. I have heard 5 to 10 years, but definatly more on the newer sensors. I would definatly replace all four at the same time if one burned out. They are only a little over a hundred dollars for all 4 sensors and would save you 4 trips to the tire shop.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 08:44 AM
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Thanks! I've been out of pocket on the forum for a little while.
Anyway it does look like GM has figured out a way to ensure you get into see them and get the sensor replaced.
Corey has a good idea...get them all replaced when one goes...but then again who knows how much battery life is actually left in each of the sensors. I only drive on weekends and put about 3k miles a year...hopefully these sensors will last at least 7-8 years.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 05:47 PM
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C'mon guys; who expects a little, podunk battery to last forever? :lol:
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 06:26 PM
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In the second design the last read value is stored in the BCM to be displayed as a default value at next start-up
I have to disagree with that. When park my car at the end of the day when the tires are hot then start the car the next morning when the tires are cold the first value dispalyed (even before thee car has moved) is lower than the knight before. This happens all the time. Three days last week my right rear was running a little low (~27 psi hot). As long as I drove the car in the day time there was no warnings but after it sat over night, the tire cooled, pressure dropped, and as soon as I started the engine the dic displayed a RR tire presure low warning and the tire presure reading was 24 psi.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 07:22 PM
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I would definatly replace all four at the same time if one burned out. They are only a little over a hundred dollars for all 4 sensors and would save you 4 trips to the tire shop.
I believe they are around $100 each, new, which is how you want them if battery life is an issue.
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 10:19 PM
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Yeah, I was wrong on the price. I think you can have all for for a little over 200 though at g m parts direct dot com.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 01:57 AM
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they should be self recharging while driving !

Fat chance that happening :cry
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 12:16 PM
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Wow, Manny. You really know a lot about tire sensors! :cheers:

Thanks!
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Old Dec 20, 2002 | 09:22 PM
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Wow Manny!

That is alot of information! I am glad you shared it with us! Now if you could just figure out how to make this system work on my Z06 you'd really be the man!

Thanks,

Corey
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Yeah, I was wrong on the price. I think you can have all for for a little over 200 though at g m parts direct dot com.
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