No Tail Lights even after MFS switch replacementnt
Replaced the MFS switch assembly - still no tail lights. What else should I check?
Thank you.
Last edited by cloudvette; Aug 15, 2021 at 10:21 AM. Reason: spelling
if you search for brake light issues, several of the resulting threads show wiring for both running and brake lights.
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Are there any other connectors between there and the fuse block?
Are there any other connectors between there and the fuse block?
After reviewing your thread, you were on the correct fix approach since the all the parking lights at the back of the car are inop which indicates (to me) a "single point failure" to cause all those lights to be inop....
Reviewing the schematic for your 2002 model year, there are some areas with checking for damages wires/pins/connectors...
Connector C140> Transmission harness to forward lamp harness, RH side in engine compartment, below the battery....
Recommend you remove the battery and battery tray and perform a detailed visual inspection on this connector wires to include the male and female pin on connectors...
A challenge here is that you need to check PIN "A" for power with the battery/tray removed to access the connector...so do not take any risks here simply disconnect the plug for basic continuity checks and good eyeball inspection...Post up any findings?
Connector C400>Transmission harness to rear body harness, RR wheelhouse, rear of the control arm...
OK if Connector C140 has no issues then you will need to put the battery tray and battery back in the car for the Connector C400 power check.
Connector C400> inspection checks> perform a detailed visual inspection on this connector wires to include the male and female pin on connectors.
With the parking lights turned ON> check PIN "E" for power...Post up any findings?
If you do not have power on PIN "E" of Connector C400, the failure is forward and you will need to revisit the C140 connector again...
Splice Group S484> Rear body harness, approximately 8.0 cm (3.1 in) left of the splice pack 400 breakout (CKT 24)...
With the system turned "ON" and you are getting power PIN "E" of Connector C400...Then you will need to look at Splice Group S484...
Post up any findings,
Cheers,
Goose
Connector at rear between tire and muffler
Connector at rear between tire and muffler...see wire disconnected. Does not go to pin.
So I disconnected the connectors and tried to power the bulbs with the gadget I used to power the bulbs.....no lighting. I connected the connectors together and then when I power the bulbs with the probe it lights all the tail lights, side marker and license plate lights. Not sure the disconnected wire plays a part. The connector has six pins in 7 pin connector all those 6 spots are taken up by the wires coming and the loose wire you see is the 7th spot however there is no pin from the male connector.....so may not have any effect on the connection. Advise? I am now going to go forward with the instructions noted by Goose.
One of the harnesses in the engine battery compartment had the brown wire cut and routed as a blue wire with a 7.5 amp fuse. The fuse was blown and I just replaced it. Have not powered it up with the battery. All other connectors seem to look ok thus far. Have not exhausted your instructions yet.
that wire splice with the in-mine fuse should not be there...also the plug at the back of the car needs to be checked for the wire that looks damaged with the red circle...
cheers,
goose
Last edited by 69; Sep 19, 2021 at 05:02 PM.
Replaced that fuse. The lights came back on as it should. There are no modifications to the vehicle as far as I can tell. I got it at 31K miles. It has some important history behind the vehicle hence the acquisition. I will have to compare the connectors and the splice from the brown wire to a blue as that goes through the fire wall probably to the front fuse box in the passenger footwear.
I did see that fuse beside the battery and it was smeared with grease so I could not tell. Also since the outgoing wire was blue I was focused on the brown wire. Since I took out the battery and took the wire mask of off it is when I saw the brown wire. Your instructions to trace back helped to see the full picture. Furthermore all of those connectors are pinned to the side fender wall and not below the battery tray. Thank you immensely for providing instructions. Really appreciate it !!!!



















