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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 01:57 PM
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I've got the LMC5, I've never had any problems up or down shifting. Any point installing the CAGS - skip?
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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 03:15 PM
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the CAGS is the 1 to 4 skip-shift for fuel economy in manual trans cars. The delete device allows shifting 1-2-3-4 under the light throttle conditions where CAGS would normally be activated by the PCM.
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Originally Posted by Alley Oop
I've got the LMC5, I've never had any problems up or down shifting. Any point installing the CAGS - skip?
Thanks in advance.
I put one on mine just because while driving in cities I want to be able to 1-2 shift when taking of in congestion or slow traffic. It doesn't really add a plus or negative when I'm driving in the country. I'm pleased with it and would install it again.
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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 07:02 PM
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I never found the need to buy the extra part. You mentioned the key to understanding this deal yourself, "light throttle conditions".

As you know, the original programming takes advantage of the engine torque to force a shift into fourth gear rather than running through the gears normally from low speed.. It is speed and throttle related in a very specific way, so you might look up the operating perimeters before making a buying decision . I haven't memorized them or I would offer them here. I am generally running more throttle around town from take off than what activates the CAGS system, and I am just keeping up with traffic, most of the time.

I just wind out the engine until it sounds like time to shift, being aware of the design limits , and the program has only interfered twice since owning the car, both times when in a slow left hand turn from stop, where acceleration was reduced by traffic, and running low partial throttle. I have since learned to anticipate the activating conditions and try to think ahead to avoid it.

I don't like the feel of running fourth gear at low speeds, as I am used to much lower torque engines, so it feels to me as though I am lugging the engine, which I know, according to GM, it is not. I just like to rev and shift by ear, having learned the engine power and shift points , my only concern is over revving , which I don't do but by mistake. I get around town using 15 mpg per calculations from pump measurements. Gm says I should get 18, with a lot of people posting they get those figures.

I see a lot of posts where this part is recommended no matter what, and I don't agree. To me it is only adding a potential additional failure point, un-needed for my enjoyment. Some people enjoy adding on any possible item , while others , more like myself, follow recommendations posted because I don't know better, and figure others do. Others might do a lot of low speed part throttle driving below 25 mph and make fine use of a very favorably reviewed product.
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A workmate of mine used the 'manual override' method on his 6-speed F-body (LS-1 Camaro). He showed me that if you push the shifter all the way over to 5-6 gate between shifts and then come back to the gear you want it will shift into each gear sequentially (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6). I do not know if this works on a Corvette as I have the 1998 A4 automatic. May be worth a try.
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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 07:36 PM
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If you're going to be under the car for some reason, like to change the oil for instance, it's crazy not to do it. You just need a resistor and a piece of electrical tape, grand total outlay = 5 cents and no more annoying gear lock out.
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Old Nov 3, 2021 | 08:26 PM
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After getting her home and first two days of city driving with CAGS, I did the skip and will never look back, improved my quality of life immensely
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Originally Posted by strand rider
I never found the need to buy the extra part. You mentioned the key to understanding this deal yourself, "light throttle conditions".

As you know, the original programming takes advantage of the engine torque to force a shift into fourth gear rather than running through the gears normally from low speed.. It is speed and throttle related in a very specific way, so you might look up the operating perimeters before making a buying decision . I haven't memorized them or I would offer them here. I am generally running more throttle around town from take off than what activates the CAGS system, and I am just keeping up with traffic, most of the time.

I just wind out the engine until it sounds like time to shift, being aware of the design limits , and the program has only interfered twice since owning the car, both times when in a slow left hand turn from stop, where acceleration was reduced by traffic, and running low partial throttle. I have since learned to anticipate the activating conditions and try to think ahead to avoid it.

I don't like the feel of running fourth gear at low speeds, as I am used to much lower torque engines, so it feels to me as though I am lugging the engine, which I know, according to GM, it is not. I just like to rev and shift by ear, having learned the engine power and shift points , my only concern is over revving , which I don't do but by mistake. I get around town using 15 mpg per calculations from pump measurements. Gm says I should get 18, with a lot of people posting they get those figures.

I see a lot of posts where this part is recommended no matter what, and I don't agree. To me it is only adding a potential additional failure point, un-needed for my enjoyment. Some people enjoy adding on any possible item , while others , more like myself, follow recommendations posted because I don't know better, and figure others do. Others might do a lot of low speed part throttle driving below 25 mph and make fine use of a very favorably reviewed product.
I've only had my Vette since the end of August. I've been driving it by ear, I shift when it feels right and avoid what I consider lugging. Never had any problems shifting up or down, if that starts to occur, then I'll consider installing the CAGS-skip. I don't like adding anything unless absolutely necessary because as you say, it could be an additional failure point.
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I paid $55,000 for a car and want to use any gear I want whenever I want! CAGS on day one!
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I very seldom have the CAGS activate, but I don't drive in big city traffic either.
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If you drive it enough in traffic there will come a time that it will **** you off and you will decide to install it. I bought mine before I brought the car home drove it for awhile and had a couple situations that made me jack it up and put it on.

Had it tuned out also when I was having it tuned for headers and intake.
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That's the kind of input I've been looking for. Thanks guys.
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My current Z is my third 6 speed Corvette. I learned early on with the first one, the CAGS skip is a must. I hate the 1-4 shift, especially in traffic. It's a very easy install and cheap mod. I had the module waiting when I brought the car home and did it the following day.
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