Blackwing or VorteX Rammer
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Pro
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From: Edgewood WA
Blackwing or VorteX Rammer?
OK time to start digging into the engine compartment. :yesnod: Should I go with Vortex Rammer or Donaldson Blackwing? What if I add a ported throttle body? How much can a stock manifold flow?
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Melting Slicks
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From: Davie Florida
Re: Blackwing or VorteX Rammer? (vrumvrum)
I have the Black Wing and I like it. The Vortex is also very good but if you drive your car in the rain you stand a greater risk of hydro locking your engine. Because you have to cut your shroud to use it's cooler air feature. I doubt if you will see much of a gain in RWHP with a ported throttle body especially with a stock engine. I can't tell you how much the manifolds flow.
98 A4
Donaldson Blackwing
Cartek Stage 2 Heads
Cartek M Cam
LS6 Intake
TPIS Headers
Underdrive Pulley
Comp Push Rods
ST3500
3.73 Gears
B&M Trans Cooler
172 t.stat
[Modified by Mitch C, 7:21 AM 12/25/2002]
98 A4
Donaldson Blackwing
Cartek Stage 2 Heads
Cartek M Cam
LS6 Intake
TPIS Headers
Underdrive Pulley
Comp Push Rods
ST3500
3.73 Gears
B&M Trans Cooler
172 t.stat
[Modified by Mitch C, 7:21 AM 12/25/2002]
Drifting
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From: Antioch IL
Re: Blackwing or VorteX Rammer? (Mitch C)
I have a Vortex. Just installed it 2 days ago. It works well, but the Blackwing is an easier install, and does not involve cutting the shroud. If you plan to drag race, the Vortex would probably help on the top end. If it's just a pleasure driver, the Blackwing will do fine.
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Melting Slicks
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From: Dallas / Fort Worth, Texas Texas
Re: Blackwing or VorteX Rammer? (vrumvrum)
I had the Vortex & liked it alot - I switched to te VaraRam & like it too - you might want to look at the VaraRam too .. Cold air rules ...
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From: Hockessin Delaware
Re: Blackwing or VorteX Rammer? (Mitch C)
I have the Black Wing and I like it. The Vortex is also very good but if you drive your car in the rain you stand a greater risk of hydro locking your engine. Because you have to cut your shroud to use it's cooler air feature. I doubt if you will see much of a gain in RWHP with a ported throttle body especially with a stock engine. I can't tell you how much the manifolds flow.
Drifting
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From: Tucson AZ
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Re: Blackwing or VorteX Rammer? (vrumvrum)
I have tried all three and in my opinion the Vortex is the best of them. I jsut seem to feel it a little more. Could be wrong just my opinion.
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From: Bellflower CA
Re: Blackwing or VorteX Rammer? (vrumvrum)
You're in a state with alot of rain so bottom breathers (Vortex) can be risky when encountering puddles. You may not always be able to avoid the puddles, I thought I could avoid them in CA. I have/had the Vortex, but since I hydrolocked my engined on 12/16/02 , I will be switching to a Blackwing when the motor gets repaired. I liked the Vortex performance, but I gambled & lost. Your choice.
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Melting Slicks
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From: N.CHARLESTON SC
Re: Blackwing or VorteX Rammer? (Gardiner)
Have you thought about the K&N FIPK system? I love mine and it also has the bigger air bridge; not to mention the K&N warranty!! Just my .02 :seeya
