Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Locking Mechanism?
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Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device?
Title says it all....thankfully though it happened in the garage.
I have no issues tearing apart the car....can anyone help out :cheers:
I have no issues tearing apart the car....can anyone help out :cheers:
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (Mean Green 2000)
Just do what some of the Chevy service people have told me that they do. Turn the wheel hard to the right with the column locked. The pin will snap off, but the computer will think everything is ok. :lol:
Seriously, why bother removing it. The CLB does the job just fine.
Seriously, why bother removing it. The CLB does the job just fine.
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (CorvetteSS)
Just do what some of the Chevy service people have told me that they do. Turn the wheel hard to the right with the column locked. The pin will snap off, but the computer will think everything is ok. :lol:
Seriously, why bother removing it. The CLB does the job just fine.
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (TexasRedY2K)
Is it still locked??
If it is, did you try the old turning the steering wheel while cycling the ignition to unlock?? Disconnecting the fuses or negative cable for 10 minutes?? Just waiting for 2-3 hours?? **Most of these things will work to get you going again**
If it is, did you try the old turning the steering wheel while cycling the ignition to unlock?? Disconnecting the fuses or negative cable for 10 minutes?? Just waiting for 2-3 hours?? **Most of these things will work to get you going again**
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (TexasRedY2K)
One question.
This bypass kit must be connected to the cigarret lighter, right???
Looks ugly, don´t want that.
But if I don´t have it in all the time, then I have the chance that the column locks during I drive the car.......uh, don´t want that either.
So the CLB seems not to be the cure.
Michael
This bypass kit must be connected to the cigarret lighter, right???
Looks ugly, don´t want that.
But if I don´t have it in all the time, then I have the chance that the column locks during I drive the car.......uh, don´t want that either.
So the CLB seems not to be the cure.
Michael
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (TexasRedY2K)
AustrianVette.....I'm not sure to be honest with ya....I thought you used the power supply to actually get the wheel unlocked the the bypass mechanism just goes in-line with the old, no power supply needed :)
I just got it free'd up by turning on and off the ignition and yanking the wheel back and forth.....will be driving down to the dealer shortly :)
Okay so its still locked.
The best method for unlocking these is what I stated above. Do this with all the fuses and power fully restored in the vehicle.
Sit in the seat. Put the ignition key in. Turn the key on. Grab the steering wheel with your left hand, key in your right hand. Turn the wheel hard right then hard left, over and over. Turn the key off then on, over and over. Do both hands together and randomly. Do this sequence for about 10 secs or less and the car should unlock. This works almost every time.
Only time it fails is if you have a bad motor or bad computer. Most problems are a stuck actuator in the motor, and this magically frees it. The problem can happen again......... get a bypass kit!!
The best method for unlocking these is what I stated above. Do this with all the fuses and power fully restored in the vehicle.
Sit in the seat. Put the ignition key in. Turn the key on. Grab the steering wheel with your left hand, key in your right hand. Turn the wheel hard right then hard left, over and over. Turn the key off then on, over and over. Do both hands together and randomly. Do this sequence for about 10 secs or less and the car should unlock. This works almost every time.
Only time it fails is if you have a bad motor or bad computer. Most problems are a stuck actuator in the motor, and this magically frees it. The problem can happen again......... get a bypass kit!!
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (luvinc5)
Glad to see you got the lock open. Will the dealer replace the column lock mechanism or remove it?
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (TexasRedY2K)
Texas,
thanks for that info.
Yes, I got that recall, but I don´t trust my dealer to even touch my car, so no hcnace I let him do the column lock.
So if I understand you right, I can get that CLB, install it under my dash and so it will NEVER have that problem.
Right?
I will not need to clear a code (as I never had the solumn lock problem, yet) and I will never need to connect to the cig. lighter.
Right?
Thanks!!!!!!!
Michael
BTW, where to get this under dash version?????
[Modified by Austrian Vette, 5:57 PM 1/3/2003]
thanks for that info.
Yes, I got that recall, but I don´t trust my dealer to even touch my car, so no hcnace I let him do the column lock.
So if I understand you right, I can get that CLB, install it under my dash and so it will NEVER have that problem.
Right?
I will not need to clear a code (as I never had the solumn lock problem, yet) and I will never need to connect to the cig. lighter.
Right?
Thanks!!!!!!!
Michael
BTW, where to get this under dash version?????
[Modified by Austrian Vette, 5:57 PM 1/3/2003]
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (Austrian Vette)
I will not need to clear a code (as I never had the solumn lock problem, yet) and I will never need to connect to the cig. lighter.
Right?
Thanks!!!!!!!
Michael
Right?
Thanks!!!!!!!
Michael
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (Mean Green 2000)
I will not need to clear a code (as I never had the solumn lock problem, yet) and I will never need to connect to the cig. lighter.
Right?
Thanks!!!!!!!
Michael
if you've never gotten the message then there'll be nothing to clear :)
Right?
Thanks!!!!!!!
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if you've never gotten the message then there'll be nothing to clear :)
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (Mean Green 2000)
After reading all of the posts on column lock I have an observation. Since the Column Lock Bypass kit is an electronic device that "fools" the computer, isn't it possible that a failure of the CLB is possible and you would be back to square one?
Couldn't GM rewrite some computer code that would electronically eliminate the CL and prevent codes from appearing and reprogram the PCM without adding any additional hardware to the car?
Couldn't GM rewrite some computer code that would electronically eliminate the CL and prevent codes from appearing and reprogram the PCM without adding any additional hardware to the car?
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (2k2C5)
Except for a few initial faulty units from COH, I never heard of a bypass failing.
I imagine GM could do that; however, the CL is a theft deterrent feature. The 2001-up A4's don't have the CL because the shift-lock functions as the deterrent. M6's have no such feature in the shifter so the CL is necessary to implement a deterrent.
I imagine GM could do that; however, the CL is a theft deterrent feature. The 2001-up A4's don't have the CL because the shift-lock functions as the deterrent. M6's have no such feature in the shifter so the CL is necessary to implement a deterrent.
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (TexasRedY2K)
So if I understand you right, I can get that CLB, install it under my dash and so it will NEVER have that problem.
Right?
I will not need to clear a code (as I never had the solumn lock problem, yet) and I will never need to connect to the cig. lighter.
Right?
Thanks!!!!!!!
Michael
BTW, where to get this under dash version?????
The CLB black box is very small. It installs behind the lower moulding and under the steering column, under the dash of the car. Once installed you will never see it again, and you don't ever need to have access to it again. Both the original C5Solutions unit and the Corvettes of Houston unit (Forum Vendor) install in the same location. It is not visible as it is located where all the other modules and wiring on the driver's side.
Basically the CLB unit disables the locking actuator pin from ever moving and fools the computer into thinking the pin is still working. When you first install the unit, the locking pin has to be retracted. You either (1) use a 12v supply (cigarette plug/cable thing) to feed the motor...... or...... (2) you simply turn on your ignition, pull the connector behind your dash that supplies the 12v to the motor, turn off the ignition, then plug in the CLB box. When you do it using the 2nd method, you will set a code in the BCM because you pulled the connector with the ignition turned on. This code is easily erased. Either method can be used to install a CLB. I used the 2nd method as its safer and faster.
Anybody that has ever installed a CLB knows that this is really easy stuff. If you have never done this and don't know the location for the connector, then this may all seem difficult and strange......... its not!! The CLB install is really simple!! Takes 30 mins for first timers.
Right?
I will not need to clear a code (as I never had the solumn lock problem, yet) and I will never need to connect to the cig. lighter.
Right?
Thanks!!!!!!!
Michael
BTW, where to get this under dash version?????
The CLB black box is very small. It installs behind the lower moulding and under the steering column, under the dash of the car. Once installed you will never see it again, and you don't ever need to have access to it again. Both the original C5Solutions unit and the Corvettes of Houston unit (Forum Vendor) install in the same location. It is not visible as it is located where all the other modules and wiring on the driver's side.
Basically the CLB unit disables the locking actuator pin from ever moving and fools the computer into thinking the pin is still working. When you first install the unit, the locking pin has to be retracted. You either (1) use a 12v supply (cigarette plug/cable thing) to feed the motor...... or...... (2) you simply turn on your ignition, pull the connector behind your dash that supplies the 12v to the motor, turn off the ignition, then plug in the CLB box. When you do it using the 2nd method, you will set a code in the BCM because you pulled the connector with the ignition turned on. This code is easily erased. Either method can be used to install a CLB. I used the 2nd method as its safer and faster.
Anybody that has ever installed a CLB knows that this is really easy stuff. If you have never done this and don't know the location for the connector, then this may all seem difficult and strange......... its not!! The CLB install is really simple!! Takes 30 mins for first timers.
Just one more question.
I do understand that the CLB fools the PCM.
So the PCM thinks he did lock the wheel when he wants do do that.
But when he locks the wheel he also shuts the engine off, right??
So does the CLB just save us for not getting a locked wheel, but the PCM still shuts the engine off?!?!?
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (Austrian Vette)
Just one more question.
I do understand that the CLB fools the PCM.
So the PCM thinks he did lock the wheel when he wants do do that.
But when he locks the wheel he also shuts the engine off, right??
So does the CLB just save us for not getting a locked wheel, but the PCM still shuts the engine off?!?!?
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (TexasRedY2K)
Here is the link for the CLB kit on the Corvetteforum Mall:
http://store.yahoo.com/corvetteforum/collocbypkit.html
http://store.yahoo.com/corvetteforum/collocbypkit.html
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (Mean Green 2000)
Go to http://www.97vette.com to see some pictures on the CLB install http://97vette.com/howto/columnlock/index.html
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (TexasRedY2K)
hi mark mean green if your car is a 6 speed they will not remove the pin .they do replace some kind of relay and something else not sure what they do . but it will still lock up get the bypass and forget about it --johnnyvettes :thumbs: :thumbs: :seeya
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Re: Anyone Ever REMOVE Their Own Column Lock Device? (johnnyvettes)
mine's an A4.....I've got the CLB coming in tomorrow and am checking with the dealer tomorrow to see if they have the campaign parts in stock :)