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Old May 1, 2023 | 06:53 PM
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I want to install a remote clutch bleeder, the type that is installed with the torque tube in place. I have the OEM bleed screw out and see how long it is, is the expensive Katech the only one that has this extended length fitting or does the Tick Performance have one? From the pictures of the Tick Performance one, I see a short fitting that screws into the slave and not sure if it would even fit through the access hole in the torque tube, much less getting a socket onto it!.
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I do not see how the ones with the short fitting that goes into the slave cylinder can be installed with the torque tube in place...or am I over thinking this?
Also, seems the Katech is not available anywhere.
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Old May 2, 2023 | 10:54 AM
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Katech is the only one I'm aware of which can be installed without torque tube removal. It was for that reason I chose it (though since then I've had the torque tube off twice).
Have you seen the big thread on the Katech? It has an issue with the speed bleeder arrangement, but otherwise is a solid choice.

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You can’t go wrong with any of them. Katech, Tick, Hinson……they all serve the same purpose and fit great
OP's purpose appears to be remote bleeder install with torque tube in place, which is a function only the Katech can provide.

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Yeah, I have the same conclusion; the Katech is the only one that can be installed without removing the torque tube; which I am not going to do just to install a remote bleeder. There is only 30k miles on my '04 so hopefully the clutch lasts a few years.
I have never been much of a fan of speed bleeders; have tried them on brakes and of course they have the same problem of sucking in air.
If I am even able to find a Katech bleeder I will either get the Russel 64291 adapter or just toss it out, use a normal bleeder, get a 2nd person to assist.

I did have a vendor for the Tick Performance one reply to me saying that it would be difficult/impossibe to install with torque tube in place, at the very least would need to pull the torque tube backwards enough to access the slave connection to tighten the fitting. Again, not something I am willing to do.

Looks like I will be putting the OEM bleeder back in....dealing with the fluid mess.....seems like the Corvette engineers decided that clutch bleeding, slave / clutch replacement would be a great service money maker!!
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Yeah, I have the same conclusion; the Katech is the only one that can be installed without removing the torque tube; which I am not going to do just to install a remote bleeder. There is only 30k miles on my '04 so hopefully the clutch lasts a few years.
I have never been much of a fan of speed bleeders; have tried them on brakes and of course they have the same problem of sucking in air.
If I am even able to find a Katech bleeder I will either get the Russel 64291 adapter or just toss it out, use a normal bleeder, get a 2nd person to assist.

I did have a vendor for the Tick Performance one reply to me saying that it would be difficult/impossibe to install with torque tube in place, at the very least would need to pull the torque tube backwards enough to access the slave connection to tighten the fitting. Again, not something I am willing to do.

Looks like I will be putting the OEM bleeder back in....dealing with the fluid mess.....seems like the Corvette engineers decided that clutch bleeding, slave / clutch replacement would be a great service money maker!!
Usually the air that could get sucked in via a speed bleeder would come from the threads. Just need some fresh thread sealant on the threads to prevent this. (a lot of speed bleeders come with thread sealant, but it will wear out/off after some usage.) In any case, the Katech setup will work fine unmodified if you do the standard bleeding method.

Kinda random, a while ago I l started looking into potentially converting the original bleeder screw into a Katech-style fitting for a cheap/poor-man's remote bleeder line. Never got anywhere with it but that would be cool to look into again.
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Old May 2, 2023 | 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by LannyL81
Also, seems the Katech is not available anywhere.
I e-mailed them a little while ago and was told that they've just finished producing a batch which will supposedly start shipping soon. I went ahead and placed an order.
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Originally Posted by LannyL81
There is only 30k miles on my '04 so hopefully the clutch lasts a few years
The ‘04 part of the equation is more likely than the 30K to bite you. Slave cylinder seal sitting in fairly stagnant brake fluid for 20 years. Sure seems a lot of us change the clutch while we’re in there changing the slave.
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I called Katech today; the guy told me he thought the parts were in, just not kitted yet. So I too went ahead and placed an order.....had to close my eyes when I clicked on "place order" due to the price!!....$180.10....for one fitting, 36" of braided SS hose and a speed bleeder....unreal!!

I agree that time is going to be the killer on my new to me '04. If the slave were to start leaking, I would be another one to change out the clutch as well. When this happens, I sure hope to be able to do the job myself.

On a side note: has there been anyone that put some type of tubing into the OEM slave bleeder screw? I measured the OD of the OEM bleeder screw, came out to be 0.210" or 5.33mm. A quick search found some 5mm OD brass tubing...was wondering if a short length of this could be JB Weld'ed into the OEM bleeder screw, then a hose could be pushed onto it to keep the DOT3 or DOT4 fluid off the slave when bleeding. Just wondering as I do not have a warm fuzzy that the Katech bleeder will be arriving anytime soon....hopefully I am wrong. Looking at alternatives...
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Originally Posted by LannyL81
I called Katech today; the guy told me he thought the parts were in, just not kitted yet. So I too went ahead and placed an order.....had to close my eyes when I clicked on "place order" due to the price!!....$180.10....for one fitting, 36" of braided SS hose and a speed bleeder....unreal!!
The real kicker is the $20+ shipping!
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You got that right!!!! I assume that the $22+ shipping also included sales tax as I did not see sales tax anywhere on my receipt.
AND I got an email that my remote bleeder has shipped!! Guess I can abandon trying to add a metal tube to the OEM bleeder.
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Just received the Katech remote bleeder; a bit concerned about how short it is. I think I can get a 11mm 1/4" socket onto the fitting that screws into the slave, but then the line coupling nut is going to be inside the torque tube...getting a wrench onto that is not going to be easy!! Time to go find that long Katech thread.....
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As stated, Katech or Tick are both great and I currently have one of each. I have no experience with Hinson's though the company has typically great products.

One great trick I always push when the topic comes up is mounting the bleeder end securely instead of flopping it wherever with a zip tie.

Edelbrock 641370 is currently $17 on amazon and can be mounted is several handy spots. I prefer using the brake master bolt. Don't uh.... don't mind my booster there.

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I have successfully installed a Katech bleeder with the torque tube in the car. Its not too difficult, just requires patience and time. Its a shame the slave cylinder failed only a month later (unrelated to the bleeder install) and the whole drivetrain had to come out anyway, lol.
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Kubs - is that ever good to read!
Going to attempt the install in a few hours from now, hopefully goes well.
The Katech comes with a clamp...have not looked yet as to where it might go.
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Weird - mine didn't come with a come with a clamp. Got a pic?
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Mine came with a little clip that goes around the hose. Used to hold it in place up in the engine bay. Maybe thats what you are referring to
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Well....the description for the Katech remote bleeder stated that there was a clamp of some sort....but when I looked at the package I received, no clamp or clip of any kind,

Anyways, happy to report that I did get the remote bleeder installed. Getting the fitting that goes into the slave was the EASY part. Getting the hose that screws onto the fitting was NOT! Took me only about 15 minutes to get the fitting into the slave.....probably 30-45 to get the hose screwed onto the fitting. Seemed like the coupling was cross-threading as I could only get about 1.5 turns with fingers then it would stop. The hose did not go on the fitting real easy even before I was doing the install....like there was a burr on the threads. But anyways....all it took was a partial turn with a wrench and then I was able to use fingers again until it was seated, then a wrench to tighten it down.

Routed line up to the clutch master. Poured some DOT 3 into the master reservoir with the speed bleeder removed, let gravity help me out a bit. Then with the bleeder closed, I did many very small pushes on the clutch pedal to bleed the master. Couple of full pedal pushes and had a pretty good pedal. Getting wife to help me actually bleed it this afternoon.

Have not put the inspection cover back yet....checking for leaks. Will do that after slave is fully bleed.

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Originally Posted by LannyL81
Well....the description for the Katech remote bleeder stated that there was a clamp of some sort....but when I looked at the package I received, no clamp or clip of any kind,
Contacted Katech yesterday. Today I got a response stating that they forgot to include this part in the kits that were recently shipped out and that they were going to send them out. I received a shipping notification a short while ago - may want to check your email to see if you will be getting one as well.
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Received no email from Katech, guess one has to complain to get the missing clip.
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It has been awhile since I have been on this forum and came across this thread a few days ago which got me thinking about flushing my clutch fluid once again. I've tried the Ranger method but it's very limiting and is not a real flush. I've been wanting to install a remote bleeder and up until the Katech name came up in this thread, I thought that it would be impossible to do without removing the torque tube. The $180 price tag of the Katech makes me hesitant because I am a cheapskate. So I came across a long style bleeder screw made by Earl's, p/n LS642001ERL that should screw into the slave cylinder. It has M10x1.5 threads, -4AN fitting, and is about 4 1/2" long. Has anyone tried this? Is it too long? Are the threads correct? Does anybody know how long the OEM and Katech are? It has been awhile since I have been under my 2000 Vette and can't remember how tight it was but I do remember that bleeding the clutch was not going to be easy.

In order to use the Earl's bleeder screw with a remote bleeder, you would have to drill out the end to allow fluid to flow through it when it is tightened down. I have found this bleeder screw for about $42. If it was under $20, I would have just bought one and answered my own question. In the near future, I'm planning to put my vette up on my Quickjacks, do an oil change, flush the brake fluid, and hopefully flush the clutch also.
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