C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

2001 BCM Circuit Board diagram

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Sep 15, 2023 | 06:37 PM
  #1  
Trog's Avatar
Trog
Thread Starter
Drifting
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 48
From: Lakeport CA
Default 2001 BCM Circuit Board diagram

Tried an advanced search & not finding an actual answer... I have FSM for pin outs & wiring diagrams external to the BCM. However, I want to know about the BCM board itself. When you look at it, there are 2 honest to goodness relays soldered onto the circuit board. They appear connected to the pin outs for driving the Colum Lock (C3 pin A6 & A8) I'm just curious if they might be the power swap relays for the Column Lock?

We are getting a B2592 with key off. Key on, it actually clears to history... but we are also getting pull key wait 10 seconds every time. Already has an LMC5 installed. Pretty sure this car also had the recall as owner had the K harness in his possession...

FSM is a bit "lacking" on its diagnostics for this code. Code is set by "internal malfunction" An open or short to ground on column lock drive B circuit. I've read the section several times & still have not seen where it says which circuit is A &/or B?? I'm assuming it's the flip between polarity to drive the lock pin motor...

Anyway per FSM, Fuse is good (step 2). Power is at pin A4 connector 3 (at all times/key on/off) Step 3. Intermittent on Pin A4(step 6) - pulled pin & tightened connector. no change... Next step in the chart is 8, program rpo for a new BCM. Thanks for nothing.

So, thinking I will pull the BCM board again, at least resolder the pins on those 2 relays. I didn't really see anything amiss anywhere under the magnifier last time though...

Last edited by Trog; Sep 15, 2023 at 07:23 PM. Reason: fix an error on pin a4 power
Reply
Old Sep 15, 2023 | 07:38 PM
  #2  
mmartinez's Avatar
mmartinez
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,138
Likes: 802
From: Espanola New Mexico
Default

Only the 97, and 98 I believe had column lock relay inside the BCM, latter years had the external column lock relay.
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2023 | 04:19 PM
  #3  
Trog's Avatar
Trog
Thread Starter
Drifting
20 Year Member
Photogenic
Liked
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: May 2003
Posts: 1,979
Likes: 48
From: Lakeport CA
Default

I think all manual cars have the external relay mounted above the BCM... LMC5 directions have you remove on manual cars anyway.

So... pulled the BCM board & of the two relays on the board, one had an open on the coil pins... So, I removed it, Siemens T72m5d155-12-08 number I could not find an xref on digikey or general google search. But I had a bag of Panasonic 255-1240-ND that I use to fix door modules, rated at 15a so figured what the hell.. Soldered in, back in the car. Low & behold all errors are now GONE on BCM. Sometimes persistence is not futile...
Reply
Old Sep 16, 2023 | 08:39 PM
  #4  
mmartinez's Avatar
mmartinez
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Active Streak: 60 Days
Liked
 
Joined: Sep 2008
Posts: 3,138
Likes: 802
From: Espanola New Mexico
Default

Good going.
Reply
Old Jan 9, 2025 | 11:49 PM
  #5  
G_Loc's Avatar
G_Loc
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 820
Likes: 535
From: Miami, Fl
Default

How's the fix holding up? I have a LMC5 with brown wire mod in place. Mine started doing the same thing. Was stranded in a parking lot trying all sorts of things. I punched the BCM a few times and the error went away! Back home, I pulled the board but all the solder joints looked fine. Error message kept popping up and it could be reliably "fixed" by tapping on the BCM with a screwdriver. That's when I noticed that the relay clicks sounded different at times. Coils measured at around 240 ohms.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2025 | 08:33 AM
  #6  
lucky131969's Avatar
lucky131969
Tech Contributor
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,473
Likes: 1,171
From: Dyer, IN
Default

Originally Posted by G_Loc
How's the fix holding up? I have a LMC5 with brown wire mod in place. Mine started doing the same thing. Was stranded in a parking lot trying all sorts of things. I punched the BCM a few times and the error went away! Back home, I pulled the board but all the solder joints looked fine. Error message kept popping up and it could be reliably "fixed" by tapping on the BCM with a screwdriver. That's when I noticed that the relay clicks sounded different at times. Coils measured at around 240 ohms.
Hitting the BCM with a 25 year-old FR4 PCB and solder joints will eventually break something else If you are the adventurous sort, you can try replacing the relays. If you brick the BCM in the process....no biggie......BCMs are readily available.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2025 | 09:58 AM
  #7  
G_Loc's Avatar
G_Loc
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 820
Likes: 535
From: Miami, Fl
Default

That is true, but I wasn't banging on it with a 5lb sledge Have relays on order, but I'm going to recheck all the wiring and take voltage measurements. Really wish there was a schematic somewhere.
Reply
Old Jan 10, 2025 | 10:15 AM
  #8  
lucky131969's Avatar
lucky131969
Tech Contributor
15 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Community Builder
Liked
 
Joined: Jan 2007
Posts: 19,473
Likes: 1,171
From: Dyer, IN
Default

Originally Posted by G_Loc
That is true, but I wasn't banging on it with a 5lb sledge Have relays on order, but I'm going to recheck all the wiring and take voltage measurements. Really wish there was a schematic somewhere.
I have not seen a component level schematic for a BCM. This is as close as your will get.


Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Jan 10, 2025 | 03:50 PM
  #9  
G_Loc's Avatar
G_Loc
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 820
Likes: 535
From: Miami, Fl
Default

Thanks that is super helpful. I'll check the connections on pins A6 and C15. Barring any issues there, it looks like the "Motor Drive B" relay (assuming that's a relay in the diagram) could be the culprit.
Reply
Old Jan 11, 2025 | 07:53 AM
  #10  
C5MSG2004Vert's Avatar
C5MSG2004Vert
Drifting
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
Top Answer: 1
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 1,365
Likes: 414
From: New Jersey
Default Bad relay

Originally Posted by G_Loc
Thanks that is super helpful. I'll check the connections on pins A6 and C15. Barring any issues there, it looks like the "Motor Drive B" relay (assuming that's a relay in the diagram) could be the culprit.
Relays can and do hang up. If a relay is hanging up, vibration can allow it to operate. It looks like your on the right track.
Reply
Old Jan 13, 2025 | 03:33 PM
  #11  
G_Loc's Avatar
G_Loc
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 820
Likes: 535
From: Miami, Fl
Default

Removed the unlock relay and one of the legs - the one that closes the feedback circuit to pin C15 - stayed stuck on the board. Guessing that it corroded to the point where it was barely making contact, which explains why tapping the BCM fixed the issue. This area of the car did get wet a while back due to water leak, which could explain the corrosion. Need to replace the other relay as soon as it arrives. Will likely just leave it as is since the external relay that's hooked up to that one is bypassed. In the meantime, I'll toss the BCM back in later tonight to test things out!


Last edited by G_Loc; Jan 13, 2025 at 03:42 PM.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2025 | 03:07 PM
  #12  
korak1111's Avatar
korak1111
Advanced
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2025
Posts: 76
Likes: 13
From: Ontario
Default

Well, how did it go?
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2025 | 03:14 PM
  #13  
G_Loc's Avatar
G_Loc
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 820
Likes: 535
From: Miami, Fl
Default

Hell - now I don't remember if I replaced the other relay, but I haven't experienced any issues after replacing the one that was clearly faulty.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2025 | 03:18 PM
  #14  
korak1111's Avatar
korak1111
Advanced
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2025
Posts: 76
Likes: 13
From: Ontario
Default

Awesome, so sounds like this is worth a try after the LMC5 + brown wire mod but before getting a whole new BCM!
Did you use the same Panasonic or equivalent relays from the door lock modules?
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2025 | 03:21 PM
  #15  
G_Loc's Avatar
G_Loc
Burning Brakes
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jul 2010
Posts: 820
Likes: 535
From: Miami, Fl
Default

Originally Posted by korak1111
Awesome, so sounds like this is worth a try after the LMC5 + brown wire mod but before getting a whole new BCM!
Did you use the same Panasonic or equivalent relays from the door lock modules?
Yep - Panasonic JSM1-12V. They're <$8 on Amazon right now or you can buy them in bulk on eBay for a bit less.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2025 | 03:27 PM
  #16  
korak1111's Avatar
korak1111
Advanced
All Eyes On Me
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2025
Posts: 76
Likes: 13
From: Ontario
Default

Thanks G_Loc!
I'll keep this in my back pocket for when my BCM decides it wants an early retirement...
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To 2001 BCM Circuit Board diagram





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:54 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE