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Old May 27, 2024 | 10:33 AM
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After extensive research, this is what I’m thinking for my 2001 C5 build. As the title states, any help with parts I may be missing or opinions on components would be GREATLY appreciated! Thanks

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✔️Callaway Honker CAI
Hayden 679 Trans Cooler
FAST 92mm Intake
LS2 Silver Blade Throttle Body
LS2 Throttle Body Adapter
42lb Fuel Injectors
160 Degree Thermostat
TSP Brawler LS6-Style Heads
TSP Stage 2 228/232 Cam
Timing Cover Gasket Set
Katech C5-R Chain / Sprocket Set
Melling OE Oil Pump
ATI Harmonic Balancer 917266
✔️Speed Engineering Headers w/ X-pipe
Yank SS 3200/3600 Stall Converter
3.42 3-rib Differential
✔️CORSA Xtreme Exhaust
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✔️ - Already Have
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Old May 27, 2024 | 08:44 PM
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Are you deleting the cats? I assume you are with the long tubes. I had the Corsa Extreme with Long tubes and it was insanely loud. Like 16 year old kit with a 5.0 mustang and open exhaust kinda loud. I traded for the sport and while still loud much better.

Otherwise looks like a great build. Pretty much same as mine except I have the CNC 5.3 stage 2.5 heads and a BTR stage 3 cam. 453/404. 6speed
I’m using 36 lbs injectors. Can’t remember the duty cycle numbers but had plenty of room to go.
I did fly cut my pistons since the 5.3 heads have a small chamber. I’m sitting at 11.1 ish compression
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Old May 27, 2024 | 09:11 PM
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Are you deleting the cats? I assume you are with the long tubes. I had the Corsa Extreme with Long tubes and it was insanely loud. Like 16 year old kit with a 5.0 mustang and open exhaust kinda loud. I traded for the sport and while still loud much better.

Otherwise looks like a great build. Pretty much same as mine except I have the CNC 5.3 stage 2.5 heads and a BTR stage 3 cam. 453/404. 6speed
I’m using 36 lbs injectors. Can’t remember the duty cycle numbers but had plenty of room to go.
I did fly cut my pistons since the 5.3 heads have a small chamber. I’m sitting at 11.1 ish compression
Thanks for the feedback! Yes, catless X-pipe is already installed. Brother-in-law has a C6 Z06 with a cam and CORSA Xtremes, and although VERY loud, still bearable…we’ll see how my ears feel in a few years 😂

I currently have 241 heads which leaves obvious room for improvement, and the TSP LS6-style heads come CNC ported in the 243 casting and include titanium springs and retainers (which I would have chosen anyway) at an outstanding price. I’m pretty excited to get this project underway
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Old May 27, 2024 | 09:19 PM
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What are your goals for the car?

Also, what did you use for the white tire lettering? Kind of loving the look lol.
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Old May 27, 2024 | 09:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Vox Machina
What are your goals for the car?

Also, what did you use for the white tire lettering? Kind of loving the look lol.
This was my dad’s Vette for the last 10 years and, not only did he daily it, he kept it bone stock. Last year he found him another 2001 with 40k miles in Torch Red that he fell in love with so he tossed me the keys to the Pewter Metallic as a Father’s Day surprise. Needless to say it didn’t remain stock very long.

Its “daily driver” duties are over at this point. I also don’t autocross regularly and have only been down a drag strip a couple of times. I do however take a yearly trip to the Tail of The Dragon in East Tennessee and waste about a years worth of tread in a week lol I’m simply looking for a streetable weekender for car shows and the occasional red light to red light (in Mexico of course) romp.

*I hand painted the lettering using over-the-counter oil-based white. Gets a lot of attention (never understood why manufacturers quit making them that way)
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Old May 28, 2024 | 04:03 AM
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Your build looks good. Your biggest decision is going to be the torque converter choice. It’s mostly going to be street driven, yankSS 3600 will be nice, create some fun, but, with that build, your going to blow your street tires off, 1st gear will definitely be useless with street rubber. The 3200 converter won’t whine as much, won’t heat up the trans that much, and won’t hit the rear tires as hard as the 3600. I use a 3200 with 3.73 gears and can even do HPDE because the converter doesn’t whine like the 3600. My installer said nobody with a c5 comes into the shop and gets a 3600+ converter for a street car, unless you’re going for drag times.

1st gear might be useless with either converter, but you have to decide.
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Old May 28, 2024 | 09:25 AM
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Your build looks good. Your biggest decision is going to be the torque converter choice. It’s mostly going to be street driven, yankSS 3600 will be nice, create some fun, but, with that build, your going to blow your street tires off, 1st gear will definitely be useless with street rubber. The 3200 converter won’t whine as much, won’t heat up the trans that much, and won’t hit the rear tires as hard as the 3600. I use a 3200 with 3.73 gears and can even do HPDE because the converter doesn’t whine like the 3600. My installer said nobody with a c5 comes into the shop and gets a 3600+ converter for a street car, unless you’re going for drag times.

1st gear might be useless with either converter, but you have to decide.
Thanks for the input! This is exactly why I wanted the opinion of the forum. During my research, the 3200 and 3600 TC’s appeared to be the most common options folks went with but I have never had a need for a converter until now. Dad always had to have an automatic because mom couldn’t drive stick. Said he tried to teach her to drive manual ONE time…then swore he would NEVER do it again 😂
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Given the option - which in CA I don't have... I'd swap in an LS3 crate motor and be done
An LS3 is cheaper than you can build an LS6 for and has a lot more potential for power. The swap is not complicated
https://www.motortrend.com/articles/...-think/photos/

Putting an LS3 at over 500HP is easy.
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Originally Posted by Lowend
Given the option - which in CA I don't have... I'd swap in an LS3 crate motor and be done
An LS3 is cheaper than you can build an LS6 for and has a lot more potential for power. The swap is not complicated
https://www.motortrend.com/articles/...-think/photos/

Putting an LS3 at over 500HP is easy.
Great thought…but not “entirely” correct. I did initially consider an LS3 swap, however, a crate LS3 currently costs approx $9,600 PLUS a required LS3 Controller Kit at approx $2,000. So before any labor I’m looking at $11,600.

Comparing that to the LS6 build, current cost of all my listed parts totals approx $7,500. It would also replace just about everything but the block itself (which is still in great shape).

So yes, the LS3 will potentially make a lot more power in the long run, but the cheaper option is actually the rebuild at this time.
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Those Brawler heads have been out of stock for a while. They look good on paper.
Couple posts in the for sale section you might be interested in.
If you sent your existing heads for their CNC stage 1 porting (no idea of current turn times). New LS6 Valves:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-set-16-a.html
NIB sealed stud kit:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...34-4316-a.html
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Old May 29, 2024 | 09:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Prop Joe
Those Brawler heads have been out of stock for a while. They look good on paper.
Couple posts in the for sale section you might be interested in.
If you sent your existing heads for their CNC stage 1 porting (no idea of current turn times). New LS6 Valves:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...-set-16-a.html
NIB sealed stud kit:
https://www.corvetteforum.com/forums...34-4316-a.html
Thanks for the links! It’s funny, I actually saved both of them when I spotted them yesterday in the parts for sale/trade section. Certainly an option
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Originally Posted by Lowend
Given the option - which in CA I don't have... I'd swap in an LS3 crate motor and be done
An LS3 is cheaper than you can build an LS6 for and has a lot more potential for power. The swap is not complicated
https://www.motortrend.com/articles/...-think/photos/

Putting an LS3 at over 500HP is easy.

I did the TSP 5.3 stage 2.5 Heads, BTR cam + pushrods and trunions, Ls7 lifters, Fast 92 intake and Silver Blade 90mm TB for right at $4000. Things like the headers etc would be added to the cost of either so I am not going to include those.
453 RWHP vs a Stock LS3 making 380rwp average in a 6 speed. I did my own work, but labor is labor if swapping.
A used LS3 is $5000 min plus adding in the cost of all the wiring and reluctor wheel adapters will drive that up. The LS3 has more potential but but will still need mosny spent to hit the middle 450s to the wheels.
I don't think cheaper is correct.

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Originally Posted by Mc556
I did the TSP 5.3 stage 2.5 Heads, BTR cam + pushrods and trunions, Ls7 lifters, Fast 92 intake and Silver Blade 90mm TB for right at $4000. Things like the headers etc would be added to the cost of either so I am not going to include those.
453 RWHP vs a Stock LS3 making 380rwp average in a 6 speed. I did my own work, but labor is labor if swapping.
A used LS3 is $5000 min plus adding in the cost of all the wiring and reluctor wheel adapters will drive that up. The LS3 has more potential but but will still need mosny spent to hit the middle 450s to the wheels.
I don't think cheaper is correct.
My thoughts EXACTLY! Higher HP potentially but higher cost for SURE.
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If your really going to go this far into the build, why not a set of AFR or PRC heads?
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Originally Posted by Beast
If your really going to go this far into the build, why not a set of AFR or PRC heads?
Because it’s the cheapest option Texas Speed offers for an “assembled” set of LS6 (243 casting-matched) heads, including the same CNC porting as the PRC heads


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