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Yes, with the Huron kit it needs the open geography to accommodate piping and turbo placement. I've already had drains welded to the new pan in prep. It seems fate (work demands) is conspiring to prevent me from finishing drilling the manifolds and welding the EGTs in to send them off to swain tech. That is a time based limiting factor for the build. Once the pipes come back everything can accelerate again in leaps and bounds.