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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 05:30 PM
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I have a 2001 C5 Corvette that started having some issues recently. I just swapped a new 6.0 into it (had a 6.0 swap before but started knocking - was running and functioning fine otherwise). It started up great and ran fine for the first 2 heat cycles. Part way through the third, after running for about 7-8 minutes the car just abruptly died. I tried starting it back up and would get a crank no start. Sometimes it would fire up for a second and then immediately shut off again. I haven’t had the luxury to check out the fuel pressure yet, although I will get to it tomorrow. I’m wondering if anyone has experienced this issue, and if so, what the solution was. Or what steps I could take to narrow down the problem. I also know that the ground coming off the Oil Temp Sensor isn’t on right now (couldn’t reach in there and got lazy), but I can’t imagine that would be the problem because it started and ran fine for 2 heat cycles prior to the problem. Input would be appreciated!
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Hello all,
I have a 2001 C5 Corvette that started having some issues recently. I just swapped a new 6.0 into it (had a 6.0 swap before but started knocking - was running and functioning fine otherwise). It started up great and ran fine for the first 2 heat cycles. Part way through the third, after running for about 7-8 minutes the car just abruptly died. I tried starting it back up and would get a crank no start. Sometimes it would fire up for a second and then immediately shut off again. I haven’t had the luxury to check out the fuel pressure yet, although I will get to it tomorrow. I’m wondering if anyone has experienced this issue, and if so, what the solution was. Or what steps I could take to narrow down the problem. I also know that the ground coming off the Oil Temp Sensor isn’t on right now (couldn’t reach in there and got lazy), but I can’t imagine that would be the problem because it started and ran fine for 2 heat cycles prior to the problem. Input would be appreciated!
Post your codes.
There is no ONE solution to your problem
There is no external ground for the oil temperature sensor
If you left the ground loose behind the drivers side head, that is very likely your issue
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Old Oct 2, 2024 | 06:26 PM
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Post your codes.
There is no ONE solution to your problem
There is no external ground for the oil temperature sensor
If you left the ground loose behind the drivers side head, that is very likely your issue
It’s the ground that’s supposed to go down by the motor mount on drivers side. I didn’t post any codes because unfortunately I don’t have any
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It’s the ground that’s supposed to go down by the motor mount on drivers side. I didn’t post any codes because unfortunately I don’t have any
Seriously, G105? That provides a ground for the fuel pump relay, oil level, 02 sensors.....



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Originally Posted by Tristan_hC5
Hello all,
I have a 2001 C5 Corvette that started having some issues recently. I just swapped a new 6.0 into it (had a 6.0 swap before but started knocking - was running and functioning fine otherwise). It started up great and ran fine for the first 2 heat cycles. Part way through the third, after running for about 7-8 minutes the car just abruptly died. I tried starting it back up and would get a crank no start. Sometimes it would fire up for a second and then immediately shut off again. I haven’t had the luxury to check out the fuel pressure yet, although I will get to it tomorrow. I’m wondering if anyone has experienced this issue, and if so, what the solution was. Or what steps I could take to narrow down the problem. I also know that the ground coming off the Oil Temp Sensor isn’t on right now (couldn’t reach in there and got lazy), but I can’t imagine that would be the problem because it started and ran fine for 2 heat cycles prior to the problem. Input would be appreciated!
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Seriously, G105? That provides a ground for the fuel pump relay, oil level, 02 sensors.....



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yes. But it’s weird that it ran fine for a while and then died immediately. Any thoughts about that?
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Any thoughts about that?
Absolutely
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Absolutely
it is weird though right? Do you think that’s the issue? I’m gunna throw the ground on tomorrow and give it a shot, but I have a feeling it’s something else
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it is weird though right?
No, it's not.
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Do you think that’s the issue? I’m gunna throw the ground on tomorrow and give it a shot, but I have a feeling it’s something else
Ya know what? ......go ahead and leave the G105 disconnected, and then troubleshoot the issue systematically and see what you come up with.

There is a wealth of knowledge on this forum that far exceeds my expertise.
Good luck.
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Originally Posted by lucky131969
No, it's not.

Ya know what? ......go ahead and leave the G105 disconnected, and then troubleshoot the issue systematically and see what you come up with.

There is a wealth of knowledge on this forum that far exceeds my expertise.
Good luck.
thanks. Hopefully I hear from one of these experts soon. Getting a little bit nervous over here
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Unfortunately we won’t be able to diagnose this without gathering some evidence…a “start and stall” can be a serial data bus issue among some others…do you have a scan tool ??…if the scan tool can’t communicate with the car a serial data bus issue is suspect…yes, you can look at fuel pressure and maybe look at your MAP sensor…we had a member a while back with a MAP sensor issue that caused a no start…without a scan tool you are not going to be able to diagnose this…there are some sensors that operate differently between an LS2 and LS1 that will have to be looked at…an oil temp sensor wouldn’t cause the engine to shut down.
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Unfortunately we won’t be able to diagnose this without gathering some evidence…a “start and stall” can be a serial data bus issue among some others…do you have a scan tool ??…yes, you can look at fuel pressure and maybe look at your MAP sensor…we had a member a while back with a MAP sensor issue that caused a no start…without a scan tool you are not going to be able to diagnose this…there are some sensors that operate differently between an LS2 and LS1 that will have to be looked at.
i do have a scan tool. And i don’t believe it is an LS2. It’s an LQ4. So when I take a look tomorrow, should I hook up that ground and check fuel pressure, MAP sensor, and what else? Some forums are saying PCM related things like crankshaft and cam position sensor.
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Well if you can communicate we can take the data bus off the table…I’m not sure about the LQ4 but the LS1 uses a 24X crank reluctor and the cam is a 1X….you would to check what that engine uses for the cam and crank…the LS1 cam and crank sensor uses a 12 volt feed so again I don’t know about the LQ4…a MAP sensor key ON engine OFF should read 101 kPa (14.7 psi /29.8 inches of Mercury) at sea level.
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Well if you can communicate we can take the data bus off the table…I’m not sure about the LQ4 but the LS1 uses a 24X crank reluctor and the cam is a 1X….you would to check what that engine uses for the cam and crank…the LS1 cam and crank sensor uses a 12 volt feed so again I don’t know about the LQ4…a MAP sensor key ON engine OFF should read 101 kPa (14.7 psi /29.8 inches of Mercury) at sea level.
mine also has a 24X reluctor wheel. Not sure about cam sensor although it worked fine beforehand (using same cam and sensor now). This car had a 6.0 in it before. Anyways I’ll check the MAP numbers tomorrow.
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Originally Posted by Tristan_hC5
mine also has a 24X reluctor wheel. Not sure about cam sensor although it worked fine beforehand (using same cam and sensor now). This car had a 6.0 in it before. Anyways I’ll check the MAP numbers tomorrow.
I’m not familiar with the LQ4…a bad crank sensor would only crank and if you look at the Tach it would not move if it’s that sensor.
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