C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Blackwing or Vararam

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 9, 2003 | 01:00 PM
  #21  
hogurt's Avatar
hogurt
Drifting
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,898
Likes: 35
From: Fairview Hts. IL
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (DsC5)

On a dyno, they will yield about the same. Some will claim that the Vararam actually works. . .when you are driving at speeds of 50+.

I think it's a selling ploy. . .but, I am sure that others will disagree.

If you want forced induction, you need to get a blower. My .02 cents.

:cheers:
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2003 | 01:22 PM
  #22  
GaryZ06's Avatar
GaryZ06
Safety Car
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2001
Posts: 4,261
Likes: 2
From: Fort Wayne,Indiana
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (MYRagtop)

My BW works for me :D
Reply
Old Feb 9, 2003 | 06:51 PM
  #23  
Lancer033's Avatar
Lancer033
Le Mans Master
20 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 8,222
Likes: 0
From: Norfolk VA
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (daesoph)

I just did the Blackwing on my 02, and it is a significant improvement over stock. Plus the car sounds way cooler. :smash: :smash:
:iagree: the Vararam might be worth a few more hp, but the blackwing is easier to install and much cheaper
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 09:45 AM
  #24  
davidmax's Avatar
davidmax
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 1,511
Likes: 1
From: paradise valley az. us
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (Lancer033)

potential for VR but nless yiur traps are above 129 I dont see anymore hp the the BW until at higher speedsIts almost impossibe to gauge then against 1 another on a Dyno(not a fair comparison)If you are into serious racing at 100+ mph the VR may inrease HP but you cant get the effect unless you over 80-100 mph.The BW is a great piec well consructed and made to last,Servicing the filter is EZ on BW and it is clearly my unit of choice.The 300.00 differance can buy a few extra mods that will offset any if any lost power.
PSif yor race seriously is in theory when it kicks in and no and running 130+ through the traps I see no advantage in 500.00 for extra power aftrer 80-90 the bw is as googd as VR if not better performance.Good Luck,Dave S.Xtreme
We guuesstimate if the BW is good for 15 the VR maybe on a good day youll se 4 or 5 more hp.And the build quality is excellent on the BW.I see great claims on VR I see they really need a price chart 3 pages in a row 499 on1 399 on#2 and direct from VR it was 599(by memory)I hope it works great for all whe bought it,but I have run BW'son some customers cars and $$$$ was no object and it ran great.Good Luck,Dave S.
PS watch for standing water my Twinn Tubos are lower bottom reders than VR.They like to keep tje cold air very cold and it feeds directly into the intercoolers so staying low is a need even for squeezing the coldest air available.Good Luck and you will make more power with either ubit,Dave S.
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 10:26 AM
  #25  
RG in Dallas's Avatar
RG in Dallas
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 0
From: Dallas TX
Elite Member
Cruise-In I Veteran
Cruise-In II Veteran
Cruise-In III Veteran
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam

Let me clear up any misinformation posted on price, as a dealer, it's easy to keep it straight. I can see confusion entering in from the guys not selling it.

The Vararam retails for $449, we sell it for $399 with FREE shipping.

We offer the BW at around $200 with Free shipping depending on year of car.

I calculate that at a 200 dollar difference. Maybe math is different out west.;)

The VR, while having a longer installation(few hours versus 30 mintues or so) will outperform the BW heads up. The BW is a great piece for folks that want something easier to install and don't mind giving up numbers at the track since they don't drag race anyway.

And, dynos don't tell the whole story as we've seen many, many times on the Forum here. Anyone who is not seeing 60-70-80-90-100 mph and much more in these cars maybe wasting their money on the power they bought...I say that knowing pretty much we all drive at high speed, safely, when the urge hits.:)


RG




[Modified by RG in Dallas, 12:11 PM 2/10/2003]
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 10:46 AM
  #26  
IMQUIK's Avatar
IMQUIK
Le Mans Master
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 5,266
Likes: 1
From: Kennesaw Ga
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (MYRagtop)

Best bang for the buck is... KEEP YOUR MONEY! Do this.
I had the Blackwing on & it did no better than my FREE mod.
Dyno results ASAP on each set up.
2001 model lid.


This is a 98 model lid



[Modified by tshac, 10:47 AM 2/10/2003]
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 11:07 AM
  #27  
ae1m's Avatar
ae1m
Instructor
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 235
Likes: 2
From: marlboro, ma,usa
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (MYRagtop)

I havent seen any feedback here with regards to the twin flow intake systems vs. the Blackwing.

Anyone care to comment?
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 11:09 AM
  #28  
corvette Mark's Avatar
corvette Mark
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2003
Posts: 526
Likes: 0
From: Tampa fl
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (RG in Dallas)

We have all read many postings on this topic yet I do not recall reading where anyone who has installed the Vararam on their car and did not like it and went back too the BW (I know someone will find some for me). Now don't get me wrong, I am not ******* the BW, I have no personal experience with it, and I'm sure its a great mod for the money. However, I was using a dual filter Volant, which worked well, no complaints, then I installed Vararam and I can sum it up quickly by saying WOW!!! Installation is a bit more challenging but it was worth it. Ask anyone who is USING this on their car and they will most likely tell you that they have no plans to try anything else and are moving on to their next mod. Good luck with your decision. :cheers:
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 11:20 AM
  #29  
RG in Dallas's Avatar
RG in Dallas
Race Director
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 10,753
Likes: 0
From: Dallas TX
Elite Member
Cruise-In I Veteran
Cruise-In II Veteran
Cruise-In III Veteran
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (lawless99)

Here is very recent article on the V/R's performance done by a VetteWeb Magazine:
http://www.vararam.com/vr1b_article01.html

Author: Bob Wallace


RG


[Modified by RG in Dallas, 10:22 AM 2/10/2003]
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 12:50 PM
  #30  
cmacleod's Avatar
cmacleod
Instructor
 
Joined: Oct 2002
Posts: 137
Likes: 0
From: Houston TX
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (MYRagtop)

Vararam. I love mine
Reply
Old Feb 10, 2003 | 02:48 PM
  #31  
Z06 Quin's Avatar
Z06 Quin
Safety Car
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 3,888
Likes: 0
From: Humble, Tx
Default Re: Blackwing or Vararam (lawless99)

We have all read many postings on this topic yet I do not recall reading where anyone who has installed the Vararam on their car and did not like it and went back too the BW (I know someone will find some for me).
I know of one person, but his reasoning was not due to performance, but the fact that the filter was letting a noticeable amount of dirt through. I've heard there is a new filter available though that is supposed to filter much better, but I haven't seen anyone running it yet.......
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 11:23 PM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE