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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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If so which one to buy?
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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 02:51 PM
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The performance benefit of a programmer varies on whether or not your car has an automatic transmission. If your car is an automatic (A4) you can benefit by increasing the shift points, etc. Instead of purchasing a Hypertech / Predator I would recommend finding a local shop that can adjust whatever settings you want using LS1-Edit. What generally makes the LS1-Edit so expensive ($400-500) is the dyno time and time involved in tweaking various settings and then retesting the car on the dyno. For under a $100.00 I was able to get a local shop to do a mini LS1-Edit on my car. The mini edit removed CAGS, changed the temperature that the fans turn on, etc. I’m sure changing shift points would have been no problem. If you can find a good local shop that can do a mini edit you will save a fortune considering the Hypertech and Predator programmers are both north of $300.00.

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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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Get with a good tuner and pay the $400-$500 for a full LS1 Edit after you have added headers, cat-back exhaust, intake, that sort of thing. The tuner will provide you with a floppy file of your edit and keep the original at his shop. Most subsequent adjustments are aonly around $150 after that.

Programmers are costly and can only do a fraction of what a good tuner with LS1 Edit can do.

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Old Aug 1, 2003 | 05:36 PM
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I got 18HP increase from the Hypertech combined with the 160 stat. That was more than i expected.

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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 05:35 PM
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Just as a casual observer and one that believes the factory programming gives more than adequate all around driveability and performance, It seems that most everyone that posts here with some wierd computer codes and driveability problems have had some type of computer tweeking. People that leave their cars alone have the least problems. It is your car and of course anyone can do whatever they want with it, but as a Professional Technician that gets paid to keep um running smooth and trouble free, I wouldn't change a thing about my computer as the future trade off is not worth the hassle, expense, and potential future problems for a few questional HP. :rant:
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 07:52 PM
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Use LS1 Edit. I gained 20 HP when using LS1 Edit with h/c and exhaust. Made 420 RWHP
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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 08:04 PM
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It seems that most everyone that posts here with some wierd computer codes and driveability problems have had some type of computer tweeking.
The drivability problems are a result of OTHER modifications. PCM tuning is an attempt to fix it.

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Old Aug 2, 2003 | 08:14 PM
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If your car is a 1999 model I have a hypertech somewhere in my garage. I got it to adjust the 3.42 gear and 2900 stall swap about 4 years ago. The hypertech didn't recognize the stall so I had to buy a TTS Power loader. If you are interested I'll sell it to ya if I can find it.
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I have the Predator from RWTD. My Vette's an '01 w/A4 and not too much else. Noticed a HUGE improvement with the tranny, SOTP *feels* stronger too - But I don't have any hard numbers to prove it, YET!!! ;)
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I like the Hypertech PP3. Great results with an automatic trans. Also a must for non-stock tires. Very easy to use. :thumbs:
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