cam swap
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05-'06-'07-'08
Re: cam swap (pdd000)
I was at LG the other day and saw them swap out the cam with the hood off and I would say it is so much easier.
You don't have to take off the hood but if you can take off the hood and know how to allign it when putting it back on the I would go for it.
Good luck
You don't have to take off the hood but if you can take off the hood and know how to allign it when putting it back on the I would go for it.
Good luck
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Re: cam swap (pdd000)
Unless your Gumby and can handle bending over for some period of time then I suggest taking it off. ALOT less back pain. :yesnod:
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I recently installed cam and it is definately easier with hood off. :)
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Re: cam swap (Conquer)
There are 2 factors to consider here. Where is the work being done. If you are working on a lift you will be doing most all of the work from the bottom of the car where you dont need to remove the hood. Now if you are doing this swap on the ground, I would probably remove the hood because you then will be mostly working from the top.. Good luck :seeya :seeya :seeya
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04-'05-'06-'07-'08
Re: cam swap (pdd000)
thanks for the replies guys. ill be doing this in my garage on jack stands. so ill probably have to take the hood :sad:
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Re: cam swap (pdd000)
I did not take mine off but if and when I change cams I will take it off. Just make sure you mark the hood before you take it off so it will be easy to line up when you put it back on. :cheers:
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Re: cam swap (1SlowC5)
You don't have to remove the hood, but it definately makes it much easier in my opinion, so I would recommend doing it.
Be sure you degree your cam. I just put in new heads along with the TR224 cam and didn't degree it. I lost HP and torque all the way to 4000 RPM's, made the same HP and torque from 4000 to 4400, and didn't make any gains until after 4400.
After tearing it down again, the 4 degrees advance that was supposed to be ground into the cam was not. I would have noticed this if I was not lazy and degreed it in the first place. I was not convinced that 4 degrees would get me where I wanted so I went with a bigger cam since I was in there anyway and didn't feel like tearing it apart a 3rd time. It seems like people were having luck with the TR224 cam, unfortuantely I was not one of them. The lack of low end may have been due to the 4 degrees or it could have been a mismatch for the heads I put on, wish I could tell you.
Be sure you degree your cam. I just put in new heads along with the TR224 cam and didn't degree it. I lost HP and torque all the way to 4000 RPM's, made the same HP and torque from 4000 to 4400, and didn't make any gains until after 4400.
After tearing it down again, the 4 degrees advance that was supposed to be ground into the cam was not. I would have noticed this if I was not lazy and degreed it in the first place. I was not convinced that 4 degrees would get me where I wanted so I went with a bigger cam since I was in there anyway and didn't feel like tearing it apart a 3rd time. It seems like people were having luck with the TR224 cam, unfortuantely I was not one of them. The lack of low end may have been due to the 4 degrees or it could have been a mismatch for the heads I put on, wish I could tell you.
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Re: cam swap (Jeff Jeff)
You don't have to remove the hood, but it definately makes it much easier in my opinion, so I would recommend doing it.
Be sure you degree your cam. I just put in new heads along with the TR224 cam and didn't degree it. I lost HP and torque all the way to 4000 RPM's, made the same HP and torque from 4000 to 4400, and didn't make any gains until after 4400.
After tearing it down again, the 4 degrees advance that was supposed to be ground into the cam was not. I would have noticed this if I was not lazy and degreed it in the first place. I was not convinced that 4 degrees would get me where I wanted so I went with a bigger cam since I was in there anyway and didn't feel like tearing it apart a 3rd time. It seems like people were having luck with the TR224 cam, unfortuantely I was not one of them. The lack of low end may have been due to the 4 degrees or it could have been a mismatch for the heads I put on, wish I could tell you.
Be sure you degree your cam. I just put in new heads along with the TR224 cam and didn't degree it. I lost HP and torque all the way to 4000 RPM's, made the same HP and torque from 4000 to 4400, and didn't make any gains until after 4400.
After tearing it down again, the 4 degrees advance that was supposed to be ground into the cam was not. I would have noticed this if I was not lazy and degreed it in the first place. I was not convinced that 4 degrees would get me where I wanted so I went with a bigger cam since I was in there anyway and didn't feel like tearing it apart a 3rd time. It seems like people were having luck with the TR224 cam, unfortuantely I was not one of them. The lack of low end may have been due to the 4 degrees or it could have been a mismatch for the heads I put on, wish I could tell you.
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From: DFW tx
Re: cam swap (pdd000)
i have no idea what degreein a cam is. i thought i just through it in when i get it :confused:
I wish I did it right the first time, it would have saved me a big hassle.
Good luck with the install, I hope the 224 cam works better for you that it did for me.
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Re: cam swap (Jeff Jeff)
These are the posts that keep my car internals stock!
QUOTE]i have no idea what degreein a cam is. i thought i just through it in when i get it :confused:
That is what I did, didn't feel like ordering the degree kit and messing with it so I just threw it in. After the dissapointing dyno and a negative SOTP improvement, I talked with the tuner that sold me the heads and cam and they said comp's quality control is not very good. Sure enough, after a tear down the cam did not have the 4 degrees ground into it.
I wish I did it right the first time, it would have saved me a big hassle.
Good luck with the install, I hope the 224 cam works better for you that it did for me.[/QUOTE] :crazy:
QUOTE]i have no idea what degreein a cam is. i thought i just through it in when i get it :confused:
That is what I did, didn't feel like ordering the degree kit and messing with it so I just threw it in. After the dissapointing dyno and a negative SOTP improvement, I talked with the tuner that sold me the heads and cam and they said comp's quality control is not very good. Sure enough, after a tear down the cam did not have the 4 degrees ground into it.
I wish I did it right the first time, it would have saved me a big hassle.
Good luck with the install, I hope the 224 cam works better for you that it did for me.[/QUOTE] :crazy:
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Re: cam swap (pdd000)
Take a look at this site. A lot of information.
http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/TechSer...IECCTech8.html
http://www.holley.com/HiOctn/TechSer...IECCTech8.html