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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 02:56 PM
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Guys need your help on this. First I got my cam installed :D :thumbs: . While putting back the car together. I plugged the electrical connector that works the Active Handling for the car. Well it was a tight leash and some of my wires came out :smash: Take a look at a pic I borrowed from JMX, thanks brother, it is circled in red. Can anyone give me any info on this on the wiring?

Does anyone know or have the wiring diagram to this. Everything is color coded and has numbers on the connector. I don't know what color goes with what number. Anyone can help on this before I go and spend $100 for manuals.

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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:23 PM
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You have a 2000, correct? It's important to make sure the correct year is spec'd as far as wiring. My books are 2002 so I don't think they'll help but maybe someone with a set of 2000 manuals will see this. :cheers:


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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:24 PM
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Thanks for the reply Yes my Car is a 2000 with a F45 suspension.
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:40 PM
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I'll look and see if I can find the diagram of the connector end you need. Sorry for the trouble! I'll add a note to make sure the wiring harness isnt under any strain.

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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 03:43 PM
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JMX thanks for your help, your tutorial was awesome. My mechanic enjoyed it and was easy to follow.

He told me when you try to plug there is not much room to stretch it, he had to release the clip from the fan to get it over, but by then it was to late, the wires pulled out. A simple and honest mistake that can be made by anyone. :cheers:
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 04:05 PM
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2KVetteMan,
I can hook you up but need a better description of the location and what it's attached to. When I do a search on "Active Handling" nothing comes up inside the manual. I can get you the connector views, color coding etc but need to know some more info.

later,
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 05:40 PM
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I wish I had a better name. All I could think of is its a electric connector for the Active handling system. Its right on the power steering.

Wish I knew more about the part itself.

Thanks so much for the help, hope this will help.
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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 05:55 PM
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I think this is the connector...I can't go verify right now on my own car.



Pin
Wire Color
Circuit No.
Function

A
BRN
641
Ignition Positive Voltage (ON)

B
BLK/WHT
1251
Ground

C
GRY
1787
Motor Feed (High) (MagnaSteer®)

D
RED
1242
Battery Positive Voltage (Solenoid Valve)

E
RED
1642
Battery Positive Voltage (Pump Motor)

F
WHT
345
Motor feed (Low) (MagnaSteer®)

1-3
--
--
Not Used

4
LT BLU
1764
Steering Wheel Position Sensor (SWPS) - B

5
--
--
Not Used

6
TAN/BLK
464
Delivered Torque

7
GRY
1524
Back Up Lamp Switch Input (JL4)

8
--
--
Not Used

9
LT BLU
20
Stoplamp Switch Input

10
LT BLU
1122
Class 2 Serial Data

11
GRY
1056
+5 Volt Reference

12
BLK
884
LR Wheel Speed Sensor (High)

13
WHT
883
RR Wheel Speed Sensor (High)

14
TAN
833
RF Wheel Speed Sensor (High)

15
YEL
873
LF Wheel Speed Sensor (High)

16
--
--
Not Used

17
LT BLU
914
SWPS Pulse

18
--
--
Not Used

19
WHT
1765
Brake Pressure Deferential Switch Input (Without JL4)

19
LT BLU
1659
Brake Pressure Deferential Switch Input (JL4)

20
LT GRN
1763
SWPS A

21
DK BLU
910
Yaw Rate Sensor Input (W/ JL4)

22
LT GRN/BLK
1338
Lateral Accelerometer Input (W/ JL4)

23
LT BLU
1059
SWPS Signal

24
BLK
901
Brake Pressure Sensor Input (W/ JL4)

25
ORN/BLK
463
Requested Torque

26
--
--
Not Used

27
ORN/BLK
556
Sensor Ground

28
RED
885
LR Wheel Speed Sensor (Low)

29
BRN
882
RR Wheel Speed Sensor (Low)

30
DK GRN
872
RF Wheel Speed Sensor (Low)

31
LT BLU
830
LF Wheel Speed Sensor (Low)

32
--
--
Not Used




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Old Sep 24, 2003 | 05:57 PM
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:party: :party: Damn you are the man. I owe big time. :cheers:
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How much HP do you gain by installing the tie rod over the cam :jester
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Old Sep 25, 2003 | 11:33 AM
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I won't be able to tell till Saturday since that is the only day I have time to play with it. I let everyone know. :cheers:
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Well let me tell you the adventure this has been. First thanks JMX that is exactly the wiring diagram with color coded and numbered correctly as I checked :thumbs: .

The bad news, no one in the this world has the connector that I need to rewire this thing back.

Been to
Fry's
Radio Shack
3 mom and pop auto parts store
Napa
AutoZone
Chevy dealer
Gm Dealer

Going to try another small independent auto parts store that I was told they will order the connector for me that connects to the wires. I need to load up my digital software so I can take a pic and you all can see what I am talking about. Keep everyone posted on my adventures. :party:
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Old Sep 30, 2003 | 10:26 PM
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Okay I need some help here. I been to about 12 shops and no body has this damn terminal connector that I need. If you look at the pics I have

This is one of the pics that I have it shows the female connector. I lost one so I need to get one at least, I will buy by the dozen if someone can point out the part number. Been to two different Gm dealers and no dice.
http://www.asyst.net/images/pic1.jpg

http://www.asyst.net/images/pic2.jpg

http://www.asyst.net/images/pic3.jpg

Does anyone have or know how to get the description of the terminal connector that I need, my damn digital camera died and won't be able to post till tomorrow morning the actual pic.

Gene "Karshop" where are you brother!!! :smash:
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 12:56 PM
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 04:11 PM
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Being that this connector is part of an assembly (the harness), I'm sure the only way GM would sell it is as a harness and not just the connector, you might try Kent-Moore and see if they have the GM tool for repairing the connectors, I think I have a number at home and I'll look for you later.
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I can probably sort you out.

Shoot me an email at jmx@austin.rr.com and I'll do some research tonight. I can also probably get you a source for the terminals, although you're going to have to buy at least 100 of them. I also have the special crimper ($100) but you can use needle nose pliars and just hand crimp them yourself.

I'm at work right now so I dont have time to read up on which connectors are being used there. I may not be able to find out anything for that connector, but its worth a shot I guess.
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Thanks guys for all the help. I have called all the local junkyards around and nobody has any C5's.

Been up to 15 different stores now and they all refer to another and to another until I run into a wall.

I contacted Gene he might be able to help me, but have not heard from him after we exchanged e-mails. Contacted our other forum vendor Vette2Vette and waiting for an e-mail.

I tell you if you lose any of these terminals you are completely screwed. Worst case scenario I would have to buy the whole unit which I don't want to.

JMX I want to do the job right so if I have to use special crimplers I will pay the $100.00. I just need the connectors to get my baby back on the road. :cheers:
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Old Oct 2, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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I buy GM terminals (without having to buy the whole connector) all the time so I think you'll be fine. The hard part is just finding the part #. It'll just take some legwork to figure out everything. Hopefully its not a part that somebody has a patent on, or its going to cost a lot of $$$.

As for the crimpers, the pliars will be fine so don't worry about that. You have to manually crimp it, then solder the crimp to help bond the wire to the terminal and it'll be as solid as can be.
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Get ahold of karshop and see if he has a busted harness. I had to do this to get my connector ends when I wired my A/H, skip shift, reverse soleniod. Hope this helps, Andy
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JMX I wish I knew the part number that is the problem. Nobody knows the part number. I went to the Chevy parts counter, guy went in the back could not find anything and didn't look in the PC after I told him to, he said we won't have that part in the computer. :smash: :cuss

I spoken to Karshop and he has not gotten back to me.
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