Coil Overs....
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From: More Boost, Egor
Coil Overs....
Has anyone installed a Coil-Over conversion kit on their C5? Particularly the Mid-America one? If so, is it any good?
Are there any other coil-over alternatives to the Mid-America kit?
Thanks in advance for any info.
:cheers:
Are there any other coil-over alternatives to the Mid-America kit?
Thanks in advance for any info.
:cheers:
Drifting
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From: Stockholm
Re: Coil Overs.... (C5EVIL)
Check out the LGM's, their setup is the best you can get. They have heim-joints in top and bottom so you get rid of the bushings that break all the time on all other setups and at the same time gives you a much better feel of your car - it's a real racecar setup! You can find LGM at http://www.lgmotorsports.com
I'm using a similar setup but it's a Ohlins setup and that is a completely different story :D
:cheers:
[Modified by vette.se, 8:50 AM 10/9/2003]
I'm using a similar setup but it's a Ohlins setup and that is a completely different story :D
:cheers:
[Modified by vette.se, 8:50 AM 10/9/2003]
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From: More Boost, Egor
Re: Coil Overs.... (vette.se)
The coilovers by LG allow me to do away with the leaf-springs, right?
What is the difference between the LG one and the set-up you're using? I really do NEED to perfect the handling of my car - if I can't get it set up so that it's 100% (sometimes I'm scared the backend is gonna kick out and kill me!), as if I can't, I may have to say "bye bye" to my vette....
Any info, as always, much appreciated.
:cheers:
What is the difference between the LG one and the set-up you're using? I really do NEED to perfect the handling of my car - if I can't get it set up so that it's 100% (sometimes I'm scared the backend is gonna kick out and kill me!), as if I can't, I may have to say "bye bye" to my vette....
Any info, as always, much appreciated.
:cheers:
Drifting
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From: Stockholm
Re: Coil Overs.... (C5EVIL)
Yes you remove the leafsprings with LGM's setup and all other brands of coilovers as well.
My setup have similar heim-joints in the top and bottom but are built around Ohlins 46HRC 2-way adjustable(compress and rebound) coilover. This setup is special built for my car so you can not buy it as a 'kit' from Ohlins. I make them on special order at $5900 and they can be found in my webshop but they are overkill if your not serious into roadracing.
:cheers:
My setup have similar heim-joints in the top and bottom but are built around Ohlins 46HRC 2-way adjustable(compress and rebound) coilover. This setup is special built for my car so you can not buy it as a 'kit' from Ohlins. I make them on special order at $5900 and they can be found in my webshop but they are overkill if your not serious into roadracing.
:cheers:
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From: More Boost, Egor
Re: Coil Overs.... (vette.se)
OK, that sounds good - on one of my previous cars (VW New Beetle) I had coil-overs installed - I expect I'll see an even more dramatic improvement in handling than I did in my bug, correct?
My car seems to suffer from body-roll and a very twitchy back end - as you can see from my list of current mods, I have attempted to fix this, but without the required amount of success (it has improved, but not enough) - in your opinion, will the coil-over conversion fix this?
:cheers:
My car seems to suffer from body-roll and a very twitchy back end - as you can see from my list of current mods, I have attempted to fix this, but without the required amount of success (it has improved, but not enough) - in your opinion, will the coil-over conversion fix this?
:cheers:
Melting Slicks
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From: kansas city MO
Re: Coil Overs.... (C5EVIL)
Just got me some DRM- Doug Rippie Motorsport coilovers installed...In a word awsome ! These have polyurethane mount except at the lower front mount where hemispherical bearing are used. Everything feel crisper/ sharper, I now take exit ramp at twice the speed I used to take w/ the stock Z51 suspension and feel more confident doing so. Ride is not bad at all, better than the stock setup w/ the EMT. (I have pilot sport now.)
If you want the ultimate the LG is it. I got my DRM from a forum member at a discounted price otherwise I would have gone w/ the LG.
Stay w/ the DRM or the LG these have the Bilsteen sport w/ heavy duty threaded aluminum shock body. You can also choose spring rate to fit your need.
[Modified by boblackhardtop, 7:10 PM 10/8/2003]
If you want the ultimate the LG is it. I got my DRM from a forum member at a discounted price otherwise I would have gone w/ the LG.
Stay w/ the DRM or the LG these have the Bilsteen sport w/ heavy duty threaded aluminum shock body. You can also choose spring rate to fit your need.
[Modified by boblackhardtop, 7:10 PM 10/8/2003]
Melting Slicks
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From: NY-South Florida
Re: Coil Overs.... (C5EVIL)
I got a set from Lou a couple of weeks ago. Hopefully I will get tothem in the next week. All I can say is that they are a NICE piece of work. If they work half as good as they look road racing will be a whole new experience! :yesnod:
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Melting Slicks
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Re: Coil Overs.... (9D9LS1)
I plan on purchashing Lou's suspension.
I had the opportunity to go for a ride in Lou's FRC when I dropped off and picked-up my car back in Aug. The first comment/observation out of mouth was , "What suspension are you running??"
[Modified by SvenOdin, 5:26 PM 10/8/2003]
I had the opportunity to go for a ride in Lou's FRC when I dropped off and picked-up my car back in Aug. The first comment/observation out of mouth was , "What suspension are you running??"
[Modified by SvenOdin, 5:26 PM 10/8/2003]
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From: Austin Tx
Re: Coil Overs.... (C5EVIL)
OK, that sounds good - on one of my previous cars (VW New Beetle) I had coil-overs installed - I expect I'll see an even more dramatic improvement in handling than I did in my bug, correct?
My car seems to suffer from body-roll and a very twitchy back end - as you can see from my list of current mods, I have attempted to fix this, but without the required amount of success (it has improved, but not enough) - in your opinion, will the coil-over conversion fix this?
:cheers:
My car seems to suffer from body-roll and a very twitchy back end - as you can see from my list of current mods, I have attempted to fix this, but without the required amount of success (it has improved, but not enough) - in your opinion, will the coil-over conversion fix this?
:cheers:
A) you can try to adjust the air pressures of the rear tires (probably more pressure)
B) you can stiffen the front end with more roll bar
C) you can raise the front or lower the rear (a little--like 0.1") to find the balance point the current spring/rollbar package wants. Lookup "roll couple distribution"
If you are talking about accelerative cornering (70%+ throttle) then you need to be looking for more grip at the rear:
A) wider tires in rear
B) stickier tires in rear
C) more front roll bar
D) roll couple distribution adjustment
Be sure to get the tires fully up to temperature (180dF-200dF) before making critical balance changes to the car. A pyrometer and a race track will help you get into the right ballpark.
Drifting
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From: Stockholm
Re: Coil Overs.... (C5EVIL)
You already have a lot of good answers so I just wanted to add that in my opinion the Z06 bars are to soft.
I'm using GM T1 bars front/rear and 475lbs springs in front and 600lbs springs in rear with my coilovers. This is on DRM's recommendation.
I had the DRM coilovers with the above swaybar/coils before I changed to the Ohlins and I agree with boblack, they are awesome. The only problem I had with the DRM's is that the top bushing tends to brake at hard use. Going with the LG's or similar with heim-joints you get rid of this problem.
:cheers:
[Modified by vette.se, 8:59 AM 10/9/2003]
I'm using GM T1 bars front/rear and 475lbs springs in front and 600lbs springs in rear with my coilovers. This is on DRM's recommendation.
I had the DRM coilovers with the above swaybar/coils before I changed to the Ohlins and I agree with boblack, they are awesome. The only problem I had with the DRM's is that the top bushing tends to brake at hard use. Going with the LG's or similar with heim-joints you get rid of this problem.
:cheers:
[Modified by vette.se, 8:59 AM 10/9/2003]
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From: More Boost, Egor
Re: Coil Overs.... (C5EVIL)
Just another thing - when installing coil-overs, do I need to remove the leaf springs, or do they just stay in place?
If so, how difficult are they to remove?
:cheers:
If so, how difficult are they to remove?
:cheers:
Melting Slicks
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From: kansas city MO
Re: Coil Overs.... (C5EVIL)
Takes about 2-2.5 hrs to swap w/ a lift, take out stock leaf spring & shocks and bolt back the coilovers. The rear leaf spring drop right off, the front may take a little wigling to get it out. Straightfoward.