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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 10:25 PM
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I was interested in lower the rear end of my c5. I saw this thread:
http://www.c5forum.com/diy/lowering.php

However, it seems like it instructs to cut the springs. I'm not so sure I want to do that..

but I saw some 'lowering kits' for sale through the vendors here.. how do these work? Any cutting involved still?
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 10:36 PM
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Default Re: Lowering Kit (vectorz)

The lowering kit is a pair of longer bolts and nuts. To lower the back of the car, the nuts on the spring bolts are backed out. With stock bolts, can't go as far as the kit bolts. Can also cut the bushings.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 10:46 PM
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Will cutting the bushings cause any harm to the shocks? Or will it cause drastically harsher ride?
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 11:29 PM
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Dont buy a kit from a vendor...just go to home depot and buy the bolts and nuts you need for about $4 instead of $40. Works just the same and you wont have to cut anything. Make sure you get your car aligned after about 50-100 miles.
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 02:45 AM
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It's actually the bushings being cut not the springs.
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Old Nov 2, 2003 | 10:09 PM
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Old Nov 3, 2003 | 04:21 PM
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Do not cut the rear rubber bushings. As previous thread notes, get 14mm (original size)or 9/16 bolts 2 or 3 inches longer than the stock ones, make sure the bolts are grade 8. Or you can buy just the bolts and nuts from Eckler's for $20.Very easy to install.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 12:45 PM
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Do not cut the rear rubber bushings. As previous thread notes, get 14mm (original size)or 9/16 bolts 2 or 3 inches longer than the stock ones, make sure the bolts are grade 8. Or you can buy just the bolts and nuts from Eckler's for $20.Very easy to install.
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Cool thanks for the tips! Do you know if there is a DIY picture post? And do you guys recommend installing a bump and steer kit when lowering?
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 05:16 PM
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Use 1/2", 9/16", or 13mm diameter grade 8 bolts with locking thread-type nuts (do not use nyloks, plastic will deterioate) 6-1/2" long...6" too short...7" too long! Stock bolt is 5-1/2" to end of threads (6" overall)..6-1/2" will give you plenty of bolt to play with. :yesnod:
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 05:33 PM
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I stand corrected, above post is right. Sorry. Just measured my old rear adjusting bolts. They are .497" x 6",which is approx. 12.6mm. So 1/2" or 13mm bolts are the proper size.
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Old Nov 4, 2003 | 05:58 PM
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Please remember, some people recommend cutting the front adjuster ride height bushings located on the front spring ends. If you cut the height adjusters they can not be ordered separately, GM only sells them with the spring.
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 02:22 AM
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I 'backed out' on the rear bolts as far as I can on the factory bolts and it does not look lowered at all! Are you sure I'm not supposed to TIGHTEN them as far as I can? This is the bolt I'm referring to:
http://benelliwang.badassride.com/Su...mages/rear.jpg

As you can see in the pic, the arm and the leafspring are head together by that bolt. Well I backed it out to the point where there's nothing left to back out. The car doesn't look lowered even a little!


[Modified by vectorz, 8:05 AM 11/8/2003]
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 12:41 PM
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Default Re: Lowering Kit (vectorz)

Back off the nut until there are about 2 threads left is the correct way. Drive the car about 50 miles then check the height. You should have measured before lowering. The stock bolts gave me 1" on my 00 Coupe. From rr fender opening wheel arch to ground is 27" on mine which is lowered 1-7/8".
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Old Nov 8, 2003 | 08:15 PM
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It's actually the bushings being cut not the springs.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 10:53 AM
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Default Re: Lowering Kit (vectorz)

My opinion is if you lower it to much the suspension doesn't work properly. Especially with stock shocks. Keep the same rake in the car for high speed handling.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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Lowering should take anywhere between 30-90 minutes.
Depending on tools available and experiance...
Very easy to do. Dont waste your money on lowering kits....
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 11:09 AM
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Default Re: Lowering Kit (GmPartsDirect.com)

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Please remember, some people recommend cutting the front adjuster ride height bushings located on the front spring ends. If you cut the height adjusters they can not be ordered separately, GM only sells them with the spring.
This is true, however if you cut the front bushings, you can still adjust the car to stock or very near-stock height. Since the factory bolt setting is in the middle of the adjustment range, with full bushings, there is enough adjustment to raise the car 1" or so over the factory height. (No sane person would ever do this, but the adjustment range is there).

So when the bushings are cut, you can still adjust the bolts down more than they were originally set in the spring to restore the stock height of the car if need be.

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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 05:15 PM
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Default Re: Lowering Kit (vectorz)

I backed off leaving 2 threads and then after driving 1 day deceided to cut the bushings. I read many posts on cutting bushings and couldnt see any problems that could arise from doing so. Got my desired ride height, no problems. The only consern with lowering is getting correct bolts if you change them ,and shock travel which all depends on how low you go by bolts or cutting bushings. :D
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 05:38 PM
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For what it is worth, this is what I did on my 00 Coupe 10 months ago. On the rear, bought 2 bolts from Eckler's for $20 and lowered 1-7/8"Did not cut bushings. On the front, cut 2/3 off the rubber bushings and lowered 1-3/4". Went up and down several times in 1/4" increments until I got the least scraping (only air dam once in a while), and the best ride quality. I am very satisfied with the results.
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Old Nov 9, 2003 | 06:27 PM
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Vectorz

Please remember, some people recommend cutting the front adjuster ride height bushings located on the front spring ends. If you cut the height adjusters they can not be ordered separately, GM only sells them with the spring.
:eek: Oouch. Didn't cut mine and now glad of it.
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