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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 07:06 AM
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z-u-later, thanks for doing all the leg work.
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Old Dec 31, 2003 | 08:59 PM
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Looks like this is going to be a great deal on a top notch bar. Those of you out there planning on running faster than 12.00 need this. They will kick you out if you do not have a rollbar. Why not go with the lightest and safest one available.
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 07:41 AM
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Can't afford it... can't afford it... Wife will ____ (you can fill in the rest)poopie a brick.
Have a ti**y attack.
Have a kinipshun (sp?)
Cut me off (allowance and other things!) :lol:
Pull a Lorena (as in Bobbit) on me.
Just get plain nasty! :mad

Welcome to Modaholics Anonymous for the married man! :jester

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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Any one else for saftey :steering:
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 12:15 PM
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Default Re: ECS ''Group Purchase''on ''ROLLBAR INSTALL ''Final Updates. (z-u-later)

Heres some pics of mean greens bar East Coast Supercharging put in his vert...





I'll see if I can find some pics of the coupe and frc bars ECS has done in the past.
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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thanx mike. :cheers:
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 08:38 PM
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Default Re: ECS ''Group Purchase''on ''ROLLBAR INSTALL ''Final Updates. (z-u-later)

I've been exploring the possibility of a roll bar / cage.

Anyone have any info on how this setup compares to the Wolfe Race craft bars.
http://www.wolferacecraft.com/Search...?CategoryID=62

Thanks

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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 09:33 PM
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I've been exploring the possibility of a roll bar / cage.

Anyone have any info on how this setup compares to the Wolfe Race craft bars.
Joe
ECS bars are weld in's (reversable) not bolt ins (like wolfes) & the quality, craftsmanship & design are far more superior .

Did you see the photo of the vert. :crazy:
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 10:07 PM
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Default Re: ECS ''Group Purchase''on ''ROLLBAR INSTALL ''Final Updates. (z-u-later)

Hi,

Oops, sorry, I posted the wrong link. The Wolfe's are also weld in too, here is the link for those
http://www.wolferacecraft.com/Search...?CategoryID=65

I did see the picture of the Vert above and it kinda scared me as the rear hoop appears to be a bit too far forward. I have been told by many top fabricators that the placement of those bars should be placed as close as possible to the cars existing "B" pillars to increase the integrity of the overall structure. Also, it concerns me about the possiblity helmet / roll bar contact based on the placement of the rear hoop. Is the placement of the ECS's hoop done so to afford better rear visability? Comments???

Can you describe how the quality, craftmanship and design are superior to others on the market (assuming all weld in)

Here are some install photos Wolfe has on their website.

Are these ECS roll bars chomoly or mild steel?


Thoughts.

Thank you

Joe
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 10:15 PM
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The bar is done like that so the lid for the top would not have to be cut. In the coupe and the z06, the bar is placed back further where it should be. If you wanted your lid cut, you could also have the bar placed back further. Its a custom done bar so they could do whatever you want. The ECS bar is chromoly.

Also with the wolfe weld-in, all you get is the pieces of the rollbar and they all have to be welded together and then welded to the frame so there will be a bigger install charge with that compared to the bolt in one.
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 10:39 PM
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Default Re: ECS ''Group Purchase''on ''ROLLBAR INSTALL ''Final Updates. (kh24)

Thanks for clearing that up on the position of that bar in the example photo above.

Z-u-later stated these are weld in units and it appears you say they are bolt in.

Which are they?

Many local guys have had the Wolfe bars installed and they came welded to plates that are bolted in areas where there is no frame to weld to as in this photo. http://www.wolferacecraft.com/images...e/c5cage41.jpg

BTW, I really prefer and have to have a weld in, and I really should have a full cage legal past 9.99 with the combo I have.

Does ECS have a web site??

Thanks again for the info

Joe


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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 10:41 PM
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The ECS bar is a weld in. I was just saying the install charge is a lot more for one of the wolfe weld ins compared to a wolfe bolt in. Im sure you noticed the wolfe bolt in bar is about twice the price of the weld in and the install cost of the weld in would more than make up that difference.
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Old Jan 1, 2004 | 11:29 PM
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Oops, Sorry, I thought it was obvious that the bolt in would be less expensive to have installed than a full weld in. Thats really not the issue in my case.

Guess the issue is why the ECS unit would be better like I asked above in a previous post than the Wolfe's??

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 10:52 AM
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Guess the issue is why the ECS unit would be better like I asked above in a previous post than the Wolfe's??
GNXGUY,
..................................Call Chris at ECS 609-752-0321..................................
He will be glad to answer all your questions and set the appointment up for your install while the Group Purchase is still running.

That should be a great ride from illinois to nj enjoy it.. :cheers:
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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 01:49 PM
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All the bars Done at the shop are Chromoly. As far as fit and finish in comparrison to the Wolf, our custom bent bars are, in my opinion far and away better because of the overall fit and finish. Every bar is custom bent. We work off of a basic pattern we've developed but every bar is custom made for each car. This allows up to position the main hoop as close to the roof of the car, place the swing outs and cross bar as far out of the way as possible providing more room in the cockpit and making the bars as unobtrusive as possible.

The Hardware used (pins, hinges for the swingouts ect) are all top notch. If you've ever struggled getting a pin in and out of a swingout while bolted in while in a 5pt & firesuit you will certianly appreciate the attention to detail we put into our bars.

Dont get me wrong The Wolfe bars are nice. We've done plenty of them. But, There is no comparrison to having one custom bent for your car.

Here's a couple of Pics of Redgars Wolfe we put in his car about a year ago




Edgars bar came out very nice but it did take some massaging to get it there... renotch a bar here, a little trimming of the main hoop ect. It wasnt slaped in the car and hit with the welder by any means.

ECS website is http://www.eastcoastsupercharging.com I'm currently building a new site that goes into much greater detail about the roll bars and engine packages that should be up in the next couple of months, but feel free to ask any questions you might have. Or feel free to call the shop and talk to Chris @ 609-752-0321.

BTW... I should have those pics of some of the FRC and Coupe bars we have done in the past later today. If anyone has some pics of bars we have done in your car, please post em or email them too me at mike@eastcoastsupercharging.com

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Old Jan 2, 2004 | 02:49 PM
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Thanks Mike for the reply. Its hard to really explain the all the differences. The best thing would be to see both bars side by side. One of the biggest differences is that our bars are custom bent to make the most of the interior room and have the best visibility for the driver. The swing outs are done using the finest clevis joints and pins made. As Mike stated, please feel free to call call with any questions. :seeya
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Old Jan 3, 2004 | 09:02 AM
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Chris how about an update!!
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 11:02 AM
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Got 2 confirmed.. waiting for the rest of you guys :seeya
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 02:40 PM
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less then 2 weeks to go!!

No one else plans on running faster then 12.00 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- :banghead:

Am I the only one doing mod's this winter? :steering:
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Old Jan 5, 2004 | 05:54 PM
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no i will be going faster than 12 and i am almost sure i am in. i just need to give chris a call tomarrow and ask a few questions. let you know after i do
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