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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 06:43 PM
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Default Shorty Headers on an ATI setup?

Just curious has anyone added shorty headers to an ATI setup? I have found a very good deal on a set of shorty headers and I am just wondering if they are worth the money? I will also remove the cats at the same time.

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 06:56 PM
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Shorty headers are usually good for a 10-12hp increase on a naturally aspirated motor and may provide more of a benefit on a supercharged car so they won't hurt.

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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:00 PM
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I agree, I thought I was moving to the west coast when I put them on and they ran fine with my blower--I'm not sure with forced induction how much diff it makes, I know Joe COOOOl put lgms on his LPE mag setup and had good gaines over another brand--I would take the shorties over stock manifolds for sure--
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 07:14 PM
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Everyone has told me that if you are not going to do LT's don't bother. Just passing that along.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 08:29 PM
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Default Re: Shorty Headers on an ATI setup? (hogurt)

Just curious has anyone added shorty headers to an ATI setup? I have found a very good deal on a set of shorty headers and I am just wondering if they are worth the money? I will also remove the cats at the same time.

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I think it depends no how "good" of a deal you are getting on them...all things being equal Long Tubes are MUCH better.
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Old Jan 12, 2004 | 09:40 PM
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I have commonly heard "if you are not doing LT's don't bother". That being said, if shorties are good for 10-15rwhp on a normally aspirated car, it will have to make a bigger improvement on a FI car. . .

So, if I go with shorties and remove the cats, I should gain 25-30rwhp. Plus, I suspect the combination will also make the beast sound a little meaner. . .

Thanks for the input. . .if anyone else has info to share, please keep the posts coming. . . :cheers:
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 12:29 AM
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Shorty's are definitely better than stock, so I'd go for it. Shorty's are also a very easy DIY mod. :cheers:

That being said, I couldn't believe how much the LTs and no cats woke up my car. I never had shortys on, so I can't testify to the difference but if you ever get a chance to go LT...do it. :thumbs:
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I just had the new JBA 1 3/4 inch short headers installed on Friday. The baseline dyno was 402hp, and 375 tq. Next day same time it was 438hp and 442tq. They also have a 1 5/8 header for n/a cars. My car is quieter, smoother and noticibly faster.

I've been told before, on this forum that my numbers, especially before headers were very low as well as my track times (12.5 @ 110mph). It is however an A4. Do any of you have cars compareable to mine and the results?


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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 02:04 PM
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I just had the new JBA 1 3/4 inch short headers installed on Friday. The baseline dyno was 402hp, and 375 tq. Next day same time it was 438hp and 442tq. They also have a 1 5/8 header for n/a cars. My car is quieter, smoother and noticibly faster.

I've been told before, on this forum that my numbers, especially before headers were very low as well as my track times (12.5 @ 110mph). It is however an A4. Do any of you have cars compareable to mine and the results?


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Those are incredible improvements. :cheers:

Did you have to re-tune your car?
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 02:11 PM
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No. We checked with Ed Wright @ Fastchip and it was not necessary.


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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 04:30 PM
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Incredible. . .I will buy them and hope for half of the gains you got! :cheers:
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 05:46 PM
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Default Re: Shorty Headers on an ATI setup? (hogurt)

Incredible. . .I will buy them and hope for half of the gains you got! :cheers:
:thumbs: :cheers: No retuning with my exhaust, either. If you're taking the cats off don't forget to get a couple of O2 sims for the after cat sensors. :cheers:
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Old Jan 13, 2004 | 08:01 PM
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Don't overlook the LTs from Breathless, they step from 1 3/4 to 1 7/8 wit 3" collectors and are just about perfect for FI with H/C and all the other goodies. :thumbs:
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