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Old Jan 21, 2004 | 04:02 PM
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Default Intercooled Magnuson Supercharger update (it's almost time!!!)



Magnuson say that they should be ready to start shipping their new C5 intercooled system with programming next week. This will cover all years of the C5. The Z06 kits are about 30 days out and they will have a CARB # when it is released. Kits without programming are avaialble for shipment.

I don't think there are to many people left who don't know about this kit but I'll include some info anyway :)

This all-new intercooled supercharger system utilizes the Magna Charger MP112 supercharger with internal bypass valve. Torque and horsepower output is improved from 1500 rpm to 6500 rpm, giving more ?power under the curve? than any other supercharger system available, horsepower increases of 150 and torque increases of equal amounts have been verified on chassis dynomometers.

Intercooled C5 and Z06 supercharger systems are complete with all components necessary for installation. Included in the kit is the cast aluminum intake manifold and all necessary hardware to complete the entire installation. Other components in the system include new fuel injectors and extruded aluminum fuel rails, coolant circulation pump, intercooler core and heat exchanger. Factory ?push lock connectors? are utilized in the fuel system for ease of installation.

The included computer programmer communicates with the factory ECU for proper calibration the of the supercharger system. Transmission shift points, line pressures and torque converter strategies are optimized for use with the increase in torque and horsepower. Optional extended powertrain warranty is available for customer piece of mind. This is a $200. option

We're currently getting our pre-orders lined up for production. If anyone is interested there is still time to get in on that offer. Just call or e-mail for pricing. Smaller pulleys are available for the guys that can never have to much boost. :cheers:

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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 04:20 PM
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does the rocker arms covers still fit on? is the intercooled version taller than the regular s/c?
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 04:45 PM
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As an owner of a Magnuson, let me be the first to say that anyone would be nuts to buy the programming. You have to dyno tune the car. I shipped four computers back and forth to get the proper programming and it was a waste of time. I ended up taking the car to a guy with LS1 edit where we flashed the computer and started from scratch.

The Magnuson is a good product, but its insane to think you can program a car long distance. The only exception - and I mean only, and then I'm still not convinced - would be if the blower was the absolute only mod you had done to the car. Otherwise, there are simply too many variables. If you have headers, different injectors, etc, the programming that comes with the kit is useless.

Voice of experience talking to ya'll here. :seeya
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 05:10 PM
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There is only about a 1/8" difference between the two kits but the covers won't fit with this version.

Modified cars will benefit from custom programming. Magnuson's programming covers basic induction and exhaust mods but nothing beats having the car at a location to be dyno tuned. The only drawback is you lose your warranty if you order the kit without programming so that should be included with the kit.

Some people have asked about the retrofit kits. That should be available in a few weeks. Magnuson isn't offering a discount to dealer so this will be available directly from them.

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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 05:20 PM
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Modified cars will benefit from custom programming. Magnuson's programming covers basic induction and exhaust mods but nothing beats having the car at a location to be dyno tuned. The only drawback is you lose your warranty if you order the kit without programming so that should be included with the kit.

:confused: :skep: Really? Wow that SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! How in the heck can they tune a stroker motor or head/cam car via mail! In fact, they will probably replace more untis under warranty with their programming than they would if someone had it dyno tuned elsewhere. Man, that is a HUGE turn off. :sad: :nonod: :confused:
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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 08:57 PM
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Most superchargers are designed for a basically stock / mildly modifed car. This way you can just bolt on the kit, upgrade the programming with the hand held and go out to enjoy the extra horses under the hood. That rather be conservative with the programming and give up a little horsepower over tuning it on the edge and having people conplain that they bolted on the blower and it blew their motor. More tuning will be required if your putting a supercharger on a heavily modifed car. That is where some of the "Tuner Kits" on the market come in (like the ATI D-1SC). This one would be a good choice for a stroker motor. Larger injectors and other fuel system upgrades may be needed depending on how aggressive the combo will be.

We sell alot of Magnuson's Corvette kits along with their truck Radix supercharger (very good mod for the 4.8, 5.3 and 6.0s). Haven't had any problem with their programming (not units have gone back). The only "complaint" has been from people that want more power than what the programming that comes with the kit provides. One benefit from this is you can usually drop down a few pulley sizes without having to change that programming.

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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 09:27 PM
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I believe Magnuson ships with Ed Wright tuning. At least thats who did the tuning on my car's computer.

Ed may be good for tuning a stock car or one that he's physically in, but to think about doing it over the phone is just wrong.

If you have a stock engine, then maybe go with the programming that comes with it. MAYBE. If you have done any mods - and I mean basic stuff like an intake or an exhaust, you absolutely must tune the car on the dyno.

I had so many problems with my system for the first 6 months that I actually had asked to have the system pulled off and have the car taken back to the way I had it before. I was throwing codes, I was getting detonation, I was getting "Reduce Power Mode" errors, I was afraid to drive it more than a few miles from the house because I never knew what was going to go wrong next. Almost 1/3 of the total miles on my car were driving it back to the shop to get it fixed or retuned with another computer again. Finally as a last result, we tuned it with LS1 edit on the dyno and after 6 hours, we finally got it right.

I love it now, but I was ready to drive it in a lake a year ago....

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Old Jan 22, 2004 | 11:36 PM
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Very nice! :cheers:

The non-intercooled C5 kits from Magnuson come with programming that is done by Superchips. Their non-intercooled Z06 kits don't come with programming. The IC kits for the C5 and Z06 will both have programming that is also done by Superchips.

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Old Jan 24, 2004 | 06:42 AM
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Send me a price for an intercooled kit with no programing if possible.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 11:13 AM
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E-mail address?
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 11:41 AM
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Tom can you send me a price also to
oceanventure1@yahoo.com on the intercooled kit and how much is install
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 12:59 PM
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Pricing is on the way. Installation cost for the supercharger would be about $1200.-$1500.
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 01:28 PM
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I believe Magnuson ships with Ed Wright tuning. At least thats who did the tuning on my car's computer.

Ed may be good for tuning a stock car or one that he's physically in, but to think about doing it over the phone is just wrong.
:iagree:

Superchips does the tuning for Magnuson though, I had Ed Wright mail order tune my car and it ran good but didn't make power, so I took it to his shop and he dyno tuned the car. This is the ONLY way to tune any type of forced induction IMHO. :cheers:


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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 01:39 PM
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Tom, please keep us posted as to when the upgrade will be available. Also, in your opinion, what is the better blower for the 6.0 l trucks (Denali, in this case) The Radix Magnuson, or the whipple charger? Cost not being an issue, which makes more power, and which has less, if any, problems?

I believe you have the whipple on your 8.1, right? Would that blower make more power on a 6.0 than the Mag?
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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 02:42 PM
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I have a call into Magnuson to see if the kits with programming have started to ship and also how they are doing with the retrofit kits.

The Whipple that I run on my Suburban is one of the only intercooled systems that they offer. Their 4.8, 5.3, 6.0 kit isn't intercooled so the horsepower gain won't be as high. You'll see about 100hp from this kit while the intercooled Radix will add 130+ horsepower to the rear wheels. Some guys have been using a 3" pulley with the programming that comes with the kit and seeing over 160hp :thumbs:
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How much is the Magnuson Radix kit for the 6.0 truck, and, how much more is the 3" pulley?

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Old Jan 27, 2004 | 05:43 PM
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The kit with the Silver Stardust finish usually goes for $5049.99. We currently have a special running that includes this blower, a Magnuson boost gauge, pod and shipping. I can't post the price for this package but it's a pretty good savings. Shoot me an e-mail for a price. You can add the 3.0 pulley to this package for $75.
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Send me a price for an intercooled kit with no programing if possible to mbarnes1@elp.rr.com, thanks.
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Pricing is "in the mail" :)
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