Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion.
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Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion.
Allows a 2001 MAF to be used in 97-00 cars with a harness that combines the IAT into the MAF in 1, 5 wire harness.. Looks nice...
PACE says its ALREADY calibrated for a 97-00 Vette, and all I need to do is install it & go.. My LS-1 Edit tuner, says he has to switch the MAF tables to a 2001+.
My question is which is correct?
PACE says its ALREADY calibrated for a 97-00 Vette, and all I need to do is install it & go.. My LS-1 Edit tuner, says he has to switch the MAF tables to a 2001+.
My question is which is correct?
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Re: Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion. (YO-EL)
Yep...I purchased on of these MAFs in 2001 for my 97 and it was a great setup. No problem with Jim Pace "Pace Parts" at all.
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Re: Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion. (Shinobi'sZ)
So, no need for my LS1 Edit tuner to install 01 MAF tables??
I am still not sure what Pace means when they say "calibrated" for use in LS1 cars...
I called them & they said nothing else needs to be done.. :confused:
But my tuner said he would have to install 01 MAF tables... :confused:
I am still not sure what Pace means when they say "calibrated" for use in LS1 cars...
I called them & they said nothing else needs to be done.. :confused:
But my tuner said he would have to install 01 MAF tables... :confused:
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Re: Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion. (Mike TexaSS)
Slight mistake by me on my part.....
You only need to change the tables IF you get an UNcalibrated one.....
(Which they also sell, with their adaptor harness, but if you have a 97-00 read below........)
In any event, MMarquez told me this:
"you can NOT copy the tables from a 2001. Those tables are larger (i.e. have more entries) than the tables from a '98. I looked at that originally to see if it was possible but it will not work..
So if you have a 97-00 & get this conversion, just install it & you're ready to go!
Pace part # is: PAC8411YS http://www.paceparts.com/product.asp...&1=317&3=49037
And again this IS calibrated for 97-00 cars, so nothing else is needed...
Sorry for the confusion, hope I cleared it up..
Ellis
You only need to change the tables IF you get an UNcalibrated one.....
(Which they also sell, with their adaptor harness, but if you have a 97-00 read below........)
In any event, MMarquez told me this:
"you can NOT copy the tables from a 2001. Those tables are larger (i.e. have more entries) than the tables from a '98. I looked at that originally to see if it was possible but it will not work..
So if you have a 97-00 & get this conversion, just install it & you're ready to go!
Pace part # is: PAC8411YS http://www.paceparts.com/product.asp...&1=317&3=49037
And again this IS calibrated for 97-00 cars, so nothing else is needed...
Sorry for the confusion, hope I cleared it up..
Ellis
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Re: Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion. (YO-EL)
I replaced my 00' 3 wire MAF with the SLP Z06 MAF (2001 and up). It came with a 5 to 3 wire adapter also.
Now that I have LS1 Edit, I am converting it to 2001 and up status. I've replaced the intake manifold (01 Z06), air bridge (the molded piece with the crossflags in it), and adapted the IAT sensor to the MAF. It now has a full 01 and up intake tract. I just desoldered the resistor and inputed 02 descreened values into Edit. I also rewired the the IAT sensor into the MAF, soldered all the connections, and wire loomed everything to look completely factory.
SLP modifies the MAF sensor to work with 00' and down systems by taking a stock GM 85mm sensor and soldering a resistor onto the wires inside. Depending on the years, they have different resistor values, 97-98', then 99-00'. I would presume, Pace does the same thing. EDIT Since I bought mine, things have changed, SLP only offeres one now for 98-00' cars
I would only change the values in Edit if the MAF in an uncalibrated unit from Pace.
[Modified by M396 #00-011, 4:41 PM 3/2/2004]
Now that I have LS1 Edit, I am converting it to 2001 and up status. I've replaced the intake manifold (01 Z06), air bridge (the molded piece with the crossflags in it), and adapted the IAT sensor to the MAF. It now has a full 01 and up intake tract. I just desoldered the resistor and inputed 02 descreened values into Edit. I also rewired the the IAT sensor into the MAF, soldered all the connections, and wire loomed everything to look completely factory.
SLP modifies the MAF sensor to work with 00' and down systems by taking a stock GM 85mm sensor and soldering a resistor onto the wires inside. Depending on the years, they have different resistor values, 97-98', then 99-00'. I would presume, Pace does the same thing. EDIT Since I bought mine, things have changed, SLP only offeres one now for 98-00' cars
I would only change the values in Edit if the MAF in an uncalibrated unit from Pace.
[Modified by M396 #00-011, 4:41 PM 3/2/2004]
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Re: Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion. (YO-EL)
All this is documented right here: http://www.ls1howto.com/index.php?article=25
97 and 98 cars have smaller tables on the topend, 99-00's are missing some at the very low end of the flow (like below idle speeds).
IMO, for a 99-00 the NON-recalibrated maf is the right way to go, with LS1 edit programming. The recalibrated one is fine for those who those who cant change the table, but its not the optimal solution. The recalibrated mafs aren't exact, they are just close. Everybody will feel a little different about this tho.
[Modified by jmX, 4:46 PM 3/2/2004]
97 and 98 cars have smaller tables on the topend, 99-00's are missing some at the very low end of the flow (like below idle speeds).
IMO, for a 99-00 the NON-recalibrated maf is the right way to go, with LS1 edit programming. The recalibrated one is fine for those who those who cant change the table, but its not the optimal solution. The recalibrated mafs aren't exact, they are just close. Everybody will feel a little different about this tho.
[Modified by jmX, 4:46 PM 3/2/2004]
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Re: Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion. (jmX)
Hummmmm..
Can my 00 pcm take the full 01 MAF tables?
If so, I can exchange the calibrated MAF unit for an UNcalibrated one...
Do you know for sure??
Can my 00 pcm take the full 01 MAF tables?
If so, I can exchange the calibrated MAF unit for an UNcalibrated one...
Do you know for sure??
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Re: Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion. (YO-EL)
As JMX states, it's all on his site. I used his site to do mine. An 00' won't take the bottom end of the MAF table, but seems to be useless because it's just not their on a 00', where it is on an 01' and up.
It works fine!
It works fine!
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Re: Pace performance MAF for LS1-LS6 conversion. (M396 #00-011)
yea, sounds like the REcalibrated on is OK...
Any idea what rpms the 750hz-1500hz is?
I'm also wondering WHY they lowered the table to 750hz in 01.
Anyway, my car is a 2000, so maybe I'm not meant to have a MAF thats goes lower than 1500hz.. :crazy:
Any idea what rpms the 750hz-1500hz is?
I'm also wondering WHY they lowered the table to 750hz in 01.
Anyway, my car is a 2000, so maybe I'm not meant to have a MAF thats goes lower than 1500hz.. :crazy:
