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The 15th of last month I ordered 2 ET Streets from Jegs. One arrived the other was back ordered. So I went to eBay and found 2 new ones. This morning I won the bid at $350. The seller contacted me this evening and said don't send any money because he talked to MT today and they told him to send the tires back due to a defect. He can't get more for 4 weeks.
Christ! This is BS. Does anyone know if there really is a recall and am I now obligated to this guy for the eBay auction. Since he can't supply the product I think I should have the option of refusing to complete the transaction. What do you guys think?
I wouldn't pay. You agreed to buy a part now, not in 4 weeks. If I was the seller I would understand. I am sure he can sell them in 4 weeks when he gets them back. Kaley
Re: Recall on 17" MT ET Streets??? (LittleBoyBlu99)
He told you not to send the money, so I definitely wouldn't. Keep the e-mail he sent you so if he does try something fishy, you can forward a copy to ebay. I had to look back over 1 year for an e-mail that I had payment information to an ebay seller just to show ebay that I had paid and that caused a problem to go away otherwise I would still have that holding over my head. Documentation, what a wonderful thing. I was at Jegs last Friday night to see what the issue was and they told me they were on national back order. They had some rediculous amount they were waiting for and I imagine if you haven't ordered them by now, you can forget about this year. I seem to remember something like this with the 17 inch Drag Radials a year or two ago. I have my 315-35-17, but they will not get the job done for my M6. Oh well. :cuss
OK, so I called Mickey Thompson this morning. They say the 17" ET Streets fit a little tight around the bead and that that is being corrected. BUT, it's not a defect that would effect the performance of the tire or cause it to fail. I already mounted the one tire I have and it's not hard to get on, you just need to use some soap, some air pressure and some patience.
Perhaps I am being scammed by this seller because Mickey Thompson says they are not taking back any tires.
This is frustrating, I have been trying to get a set of these for over a month. I thought I had some and now this guy is giving me the run around. :banghead: :mad :mad :mad
What kind of feedback does he have? Give me the auction number and I will check him out. I have bought alot on ebay and I can see if he is a risk. You could ask him if he would do COD, that way you would not have to pay until they arrive. Also, somebody might have offered him more money and he was planning on selling to them. I had a couple of sellers do that to me. Well, let me know with a post.
I also have his e-mail address but I am not going to post it at this point. As a further step I sent MT an e-mail message today asking again if they have a recall on these tires. I did this because I need their response in writing. I plan on reporting this seller to eBay. According to their rules, if someone wins an auction the seller is obligated to deliver the product.
OK, so I called Mickey Thompson this morning. They say the 17" ET Streets fit a little tight around the bead and that that is being corrected. BUT, it's not a defect that would effect the performance of the tire or cause it to fail. I already mounted the one tire I have and it's not hard to get on, you just need to use some soap, some air pressure and some patience.
Perhaps I am being scammed by this seller because Mickey Thompson says they are not taking back any tires.
If the tires "fit a little tight", and in order to seat the beads, some yo-yo puts 70-80 lbs. of air in the tire and blows it off the rim, Mickey Thompson Tire Co. gets hit with a lawsuit. It's easier to do a recall.
Plus, if that same yo-yo manages to SAFELY get the beads to seat with that same 70-80 lbs. of air, he could still stretch the tire so it's not dimensionally correct, giving you quirky handling characteristics, maybe even causing a crash, and then a lawsuit. Again, a recall is easier to deal with.
On another note, the e-bay seller said not to send money, right? Where's the scam??
I don't think you understand.
There is no recall.
Mickey Thompson is not taking any tires back.
Some are unfamiliar with the process of using eBay. Once an auction is complete the seller and the buyer are legally bound to complete the transaction. Read the link that leads to their policy I included above. It is not legal for a seller or a buyer to refuse to complete the transaction. The facts are this:
The seller says he talked to MT on the phone and was told to send the tires back.
MT says, there is no recall.
MT says there is no defect that would cause a failure.
MT further states that they don't recall defective products over the phone, they send out letters as official notification.
The facts would lead one to believe that he has been decieved. Did the seller find a friend who just really wants these tires or perhaps a local buyer who offered more money? I don't know but the facts from MT don't match his story. I can only draw the conclusion that for some unknown reason the seller had defaulted on his agreement.
Under the circumstances your disagreement with that position does not seem reasonable to me.
Regardless of an actual recall, Leadfoot4 does have a point.
Ebay sucks on putting any pressure on a seller to make good, trust me I know first hand. Tell him you talked to M/T and want the tires! Let him know you will give him negative feedback if he doesn't follow through with the auction. Because of his resistance, I would only do COD. This is the smart way to go with this guy. I had a guy suppose to send me a convertible top from a C4 and 4 months later I still didn't have it. Had I went ahead and paid him instead of insisting on COD, I would have been out over $200.
If it took 70 or 80 lbs of pressure to mount the tires. It doesn't, I already have one tire mounted so I know this from first hand experience.
But we digress. My original intent was to find out if anyone knows of a recall or defect involving these tires. Mickey Thompson's tech line says there is not and no one among the many who view this forum has stepped forward with any trace of information that this is not the case.
The conclusion is obvious, fastandslow4you on eBay is lying to me, and if he will do that to me he will do that to you and others.
Of further inconvience to me is the fact that when I discovered I had won the auction on eBay I called Jeg's and canceled my order for ET Streets that had been back ordered. They had already shipped me one tire and backordered the other. So not only has this fastandslow4you lied to me and failed to meet his obligations he has caused me to move to the end of the line at Jeg's since I will have to reorder to get any of these.
And some of you think that's ok??? You must be related to the Clinton's.
Where I come from it's not OK to lie to people or misrepresent yourself.
Do you think that maybe the reason he didn't try to claim the tires were being recalled before the auction closed was because he wanted to see how much he could get for them on eBay??? YA THINK??????