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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 06:37 PM
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I need to get an alignment to Z06 specs, but know nothing about alignments and alignment machines. I have been quoted prices from $70 to $150. I have been told that certain machines (Hunter DSP) use a laser and give before and after printouts. Others have told me that the calibrations of those those machines are sometimes off, and to just use someone who has experience with the regular light beam machine that doesn't give printouts.

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I just paid $55cdn today...got a printout too. It was done on a pit hoist because of the height of the car.
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Old Jul 13, 2004 | 11:53 PM
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Originally Posted by 1g1yy
I need to get an alignment to Z06 specs, but know nothing about alignments and alignment machines. I have been quoted prices from $70 to $150. I have been told that certain machines (Hunter DSP) use a laser and give before and after printouts. Others have told me that the calibrations of those those machines are sometimes off, and to just use someone who has experience with the regular light beam machine that doesn't give printouts.

Anyone have any advice??
I see from your profile that you have a 99 coupe. i am assuming that since your alighning to Z-06 spec, you have upgraded to Z-06 size tires and wheels. Don't forget to tell the guy to alighn to 2001 Z-06 spec. that was its first year and closest to your 99 coupe.

While the hunter has been known to be off, that is a lot less common than some folks would have you believe. Have it alighned whereever you feel comfortable and just make sure to drive the car soon after on all sides of the road and in all conditions so that you can take it back for fine adjustment if need be. The nature of this beast and the complex configuration of the suspension is such that it is not unusual to have to have an alighnment fine tuned. Just make sure that whoever you use is willing to tweak it for you if need be. Good Luck
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 09:56 AM
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Thanks bobs,
Yes I have a new set of Z16 wheels, F1 SC tires, Hotchkiss bars, and it has been lowered a bit over 3/4 inch. Except for the wheels and tires, the other changes have been in place for almost two years. I have never had it realigned and even now with the new wheels and tires it feels great and tracks straight. What should I look for, or pay particular attention to, to know whether it needs tweaking? Thanks
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Old Jul 14, 2004 | 12:42 PM
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Yes I have a new set of Z16 wheels, F1 SC tires, Hotchkiss bars, and it has been lowered a bit over 3/4 inch. Except for the wheels and tires, the other changes have been in place for almost two years. I have never had it realigned and even now with the new wheels and tires it feels great and tracks straight. What should I look for, or pay particular attention to, to know whether it needs tweaking? Thanks
If you did not realign after lowering the car, you are probably pretty close to Z06 specs right now - lowering increases negative camber, which is the main difference between non-Z and Z alignment. I would ask around locally and find out who knows how to do C5 alignments. My guy uses a machine that gives a printout (shows starting point, factory specs and final specs), but I don't know the brand of the machine. He looks at the tires, makes some suggestions, and then does his thing.
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Hey Allan, therer is an actual ZO6 spec?
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What allen said is exactly correct, the main difference is in the camber, the way to tell is if you look at a stock set C5 coupe the front wheel is much closer to the front of the wheel house than the rear. Now if you look at a Z-06 or a car with Z-06 size wheels and tires you will notice a much mor centered in the wheel well. This not because of the diameter of the tire but rather the width of the tire. If it weren't set that way, the outside edge of the tire would rub the wheel well whenever the wheel was turned to the lock. This is what happened top me and it took several trips back and forth to the alighnment shop to find the cause. Good Luck, and keep us updated Us Corvette freaks live on this kinda stuff Can you say "Get a Life?"
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So are you supposed to give the alignment shop a spec?
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So are you supposed to give the alignment shop a spec?
It depends what you are doing. The computerized alignment machines have the factory specs built in. So, if you told the guy that you want Z06 specs, he could do it without you telling him any more. The factory specs are published, I just don't have them handy (try a search here for them, they have been posted from time to time). On the other hand, if you are going for a special purpose alignment, you and the operator have to come to some agreement about what you want. For example, on my last alignment, we decided to back off a bit on the negative camber and increase the caster to change some wear patterns that we were seeing on my road track tires. It seemed to work. Of course, I get alignments more frequently than normal - they love me at the shop
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Interesting...I see on my printout that it says Chev, 2003, Corvette, FE1 & FE3. I wonder what the FE1&3 are? My toe is 0.04/0.02, camber is -0.11/-0.32.
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Interesting...I see on my printout that it says Chev, 2003, Corvette, FE1 & FE3. I wonder what the FE1&3 are? My toe is 0.04/0.02, camber is -0.11/-0.32.
FE1 base suspension, FE3 is Z51 suspension. Camber is base specs, on the low side of the range I think. Toe is usually near 0.
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A ZO6 should be spec'd for the Z51 suspension...correct?
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A ZO6 should be spec'd for the Z51 suspension...correct?
I think the Z has different specs since it's a different shock, spring, front sway bar, tires, etc.
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It's going back in at 4:00pm...I sure hope they get it right this time.

thanks for your help.
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Originally Posted by allanlaw
I think the Z has different specs since it's a different shock, spring, front sway bar, tires, etc.
Thanks for the tip, I had them re-do it to the Z spec. The toe in is way different.
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