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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:16 PM
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Installing new rotors and pads this weekend, and need your advice:

Are the caliper bolt and caliper bracket bolt the same? I'd like to replace them with new ones, and want to get the right ones.

Any benifit in replacing the brake lines with braided ones besides the look of it?

Anyone installed SS brake pad covers and have issues with them like warping, dragging, squeaking, etc.

30K miles on her - should I flush the brake fluid? The dealer says not necessary, but I don't necessarily believe them!

Non-technical question - should I paint the calipers? My wife says 'hell no', the paint looks cheap! I like that Z06 look, though!

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Caliper bolt is the goldish-colored smaller one you see on the left in the pic below. The caliper bracket bolts are the two larger ones to the right holding the bracket to the wheel hub assy.


I installed the ss lines but I doubt you'd feel the difference unless you autocrossed.


Note the SS pads and the painted calipers below. I like 'em but it's all a matter of personal taste.




As far as bleeding the system, you will always benefit by renewing the fluid since it absorbs moisture and contaminants over time and degrades. I'm getting ready to do mine again. It's been a little over a year since the last time.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:30 PM
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Good info and great pics.
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Old Oct 14, 2004 | 10:31 PM
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Patches, Thanks for you help. I didn't ask the correct question for the caliper bolt and caliper bracket bolt. I meant to ask if they are the same for the front and rear brakes, or it they're different.
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I too would recommend bleeding the brakes. Take my advice and install some speed bleeders. It makes bleeding a whole lot easier. You can pick these up at many auto parts stores. If in doubt on the size, just remove one of yours, plug the hole on the caliper, and take it to the parts store to match up. They are not expensive.

BTW, Ed your car is disgustingly clean underneath.
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Yep. Same bolts, front and back.

And you may want to pull your rear rotors and adjust your ebrake while you're at it if it's getting weak or not working properly.


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Originally Posted by LoneStarFRC
BTW, Ed your car is disgustingly clean underneath.
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Btw, I love my Motive pressure bleeder. It makes bleeding the brakes a quick one-man job with no pumping the pedal and it's actually fun!
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Originally Posted by Patches
Yep.

And you may want to pull your rear rotors and adjust your ebrake while you're at it if it's getting weak or not working properly.

Good point on the parking brakes! Adjust those puppies so that you get a slight drag when you rotate the rotor. You'll be glad you did. They should be fully engaged at 11 clicks on the parking brake handle (about halfway).
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Originally Posted by Patches
Caliper bolt is the goldish-colored smaller one you see on the left in the pic below. The caliper bracket bolts are the two larger ones to the right holding the bracket to the wheel hub assy.


I installed the ss lines but I doubt you'd feel the difference unless you autocrossed.


Note the SS pads and the painted calipers below. I like 'em but it's all a matter of personal taste.




As far as bleeding the system, you will always benefit by renewing the fluid since it absorbs moisture and contaminants over time and degrades. I'm getting ready to do mine again. It's been a little over a year since the last time.
Daaaayummm Patches, when I did my Rotor and brake swap, you were the man! I want to thank you for helping this guy out also. Those are some great pictures.

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Originally Posted by vertte
Installing new rotors and pads this weekend, and need your advice:

Are the caliper bolt and caliper bracket bolt the same? I'd like to replace them with new ones, and want to get the right ones.

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The bolts are the same in the front and back. The bracket bolts have 21mm heads and the caliper bolts have 15mm heads. The part numbers are:
14067559 for the 15mm caliper bolt
14084051 for the 21mm bracket bolt
torque the 21mm bolt to 125 ft lbs and the 15mm bolt to 23 ft lbs.

Grease the slide pins with synthetic brake caliper grease.

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Most (some are colored) brake fluid is clear or amberish when fresh, if you have stock fluid (oem) and it is dark in color, it has absorbed water, flush it outa there. Speed bleeders are cheap.
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FYI...

I called the local Chevy dealer to order the caliper bolts, and they had never ordered them before. In other words, they don't replace them when doing a brake job!

They did have the brake line washers/gaskets, so they do replace these when swapping out the calipers.

Thanks to all for your help.
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Old Oct 15, 2004 | 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by vertte
FYI...

I called the local Chevy dealer to order the caliper bolts, and they had never ordered them before. In other words, they don't replace them when doing a brake job!

They did have the brake line washers/gaskets, so they do replace these when swapping out the calipers.

Thanks to all for your help.
The caliper bolts are not that difficult to do..

The caliper bracket bolts on the other hand are bears to get out... and they need to be torqued to 125 ft-lbs..... These were the hardest part of changing the rotors....


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