TSP Magic Stick 3
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St. Jude Donor '03
TSP Magic Stick 3
Any C5 guys running this cam yet?
Specs are 237/242 .603/.609 113LSA
Saw one thread about it on LS1Tech and the comments seem favorable...just wondering if anyone here has it on a C5 or Z06 and has any numbers, graphs, and street driveability comments to share.
Specs are 237/242 .603/.609 113LSA
Saw one thread about it on LS1Tech and the comments seem favorable...just wondering if anyone here has it on a C5 or Z06 and has any numbers, graphs, and street driveability comments to share.
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First I heard of that cam. dayum! these things are geting bigger everyday. Last year at this time my cam was one of the top three biggest, now its like childs play compared to the G5X3, Trex, the one you mentioned etc. What kind of #'s are they talking with the MS 3?
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If you can't find a member on this forum who is running the Magic Stick
contact "Camaro Cain" over on the LS1TECH forum. I believe he ran 10.89 first time out with this cam. His car is an A4 he is running a PT4400 I am not sure who's heads he is running.
contact "Camaro Cain" over on the LS1TECH forum. I believe he ran 10.89 first time out with this cam. His car is an A4 he is running a PT4400 I am not sure who's heads he is running.
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Originally Posted by Mitch C
If you can't find a member on this forum who is running the Magic Stick
contact "Camaro Cain" over on the LS1TECH forum. I believe he ran 10.89 first time out with this cam. His car is an A4 he is running a PT4400 I am not sure who's heads he is running.
contact "Camaro Cain" over on the LS1TECH forum. I believe he ran 10.89 first time out with this cam. His car is an A4 he is running a PT4400 I am not sure who's heads he is running.
Thats "Linda's" car. She uses Patriot Stage 2 6.0 liter heads with a finished port job. Her cam is the first version of magic stick, where this is the third. Jason at Texas-Speed says this cam clears factory heads
He'd definately be the one to talk to about it. I think there's only 5 or 6 people so far trying this cam out.
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There's a guy selling one on the parts forum, which is how I learned of this cam.
I suspect it's a fairly new grind for them, and even on the 3 page thread at LS1tech, only 2 of the posters in it are actually running it. One guy is on a stock tune and hasn't dyno'd it...the other posted 416rwhp/381tq with stock heads...which seems kinda low to me, even for a cam-only.
I don't know how Fbody dyno #'s compare to C5's though, which is why I asked here.
I'm looking for an aggressive cam that lopes like a **** but is still streetable. It will be used with the stock heads for now, AFR's might happen down the road. I have a M6/3.90 gears, LT's/no cats, and I can tolerate a big cam. FI or spray won't ever be used.
My previous considerations were the G5X3/114 (which I suspect is close in specs to this one), the TSP 231/237, or a Futral cam...such as a F13/112 (230/232). All of them are proven performers and put up some great #'s. This TSP M3 is a little more radical than I ever envioioned using, but heck, if it works with stock heads and uncut pistons and I can get a deal on it...
My main concern with this cam is the high lift. Even with the Crane duals, PRC's or 921's...should I be worried about spring life/reliability or will these springs take it?.
Is a high lift/lazy lobe profile easier on springs than a lesser lift/steep profile (like a Futral or XE-R) is?
I suspect it's a fairly new grind for them, and even on the 3 page thread at LS1tech, only 2 of the posters in it are actually running it. One guy is on a stock tune and hasn't dyno'd it...the other posted 416rwhp/381tq with stock heads...which seems kinda low to me, even for a cam-only.
I don't know how Fbody dyno #'s compare to C5's though, which is why I asked here.
I'm looking for an aggressive cam that lopes like a **** but is still streetable. It will be used with the stock heads for now, AFR's might happen down the road. I have a M6/3.90 gears, LT's/no cats, and I can tolerate a big cam. FI or spray won't ever be used.
My previous considerations were the G5X3/114 (which I suspect is close in specs to this one), the TSP 231/237, or a Futral cam...such as a F13/112 (230/232). All of them are proven performers and put up some great #'s. This TSP M3 is a little more radical than I ever envioioned using, but heck, if it works with stock heads and uncut pistons and I can get a deal on it...
My main concern with this cam is the high lift. Even with the Crane duals, PRC's or 921's...should I be worried about spring life/reliability or will these springs take it?.
Is a high lift/lazy lobe profile easier on springs than a lesser lift/steep profile (like a Futral or XE-R) is?
