C5 Tech Corvette Tech/Performance: LS1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine, Tech Topics, Basic Tech, Maintenance, How to Remove & Replace
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Will shorter shocks help a lowered C5???

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:29 PM
  #1  
Davesredvette's Avatar
Davesredvette
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
From: Talty TX
Default Will shorter shocks help a lowered C5???

I have heard if you lower a C5 far enough the shocks will actually hit the bump stops and not have any suspension travel. That said, it would seem shorter shocks would return some of the lost travel.

I have read posts of modifying the shock brackets to essentially re-position the upper limit of travel. I have also read of guys buying shorter shocks and bolting right in. Problem solved!!

New, shorter shocks would be my preference but I haven't seen any advertised as "shorter" than stock. Anyone know if shorter shocks would actually return lost suspension travel and if so, where to get them.

Thanks,
Dave
Reply
Old Oct 18, 2004 | 11:34 PM
  #2  
CNB's Avatar
CNB
Drifting
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,663
Likes: 16
From: DFW Texas
Default

Bilsteins are supposed to be shorter. That is what I have and my car rides very good. It still hops a little over sharp bumps but my car is low.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 01:18 AM
  #3  
Paras's Avatar
Paras
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,884
Likes: 2
From: Walnut CA
Default

True, Bilsteins are shorter but if DavesRedVette wanted to go really low, I'd be interested to know if there's shorter shock options in addition to the Bilstein. I have Bilsteins as well but is it possible that something shorter than a Bilstein could provide the same amount of travel in a shorter overall body? Or are there perhaps several models of Bilsteins which are different sizes? (Hopefully, I've asked the right questions to help the author of the thread.)
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 10:41 AM
  #4  
CNB's Avatar
CNB
Drifting
Supporting Lifetime
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,663
Likes: 16
From: DFW Texas
Default

Koni Sports (orange) are 3/4" shorter then stock.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 01:45 PM
  #5  
Davesredvette's Avatar
Davesredvette
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
From: Talty TX
Default

Originally Posted by Paras
True, Bilsteins are shorter but if DavesRedVette wanted to go really low, I'd be interested to know if there's shorter shock options in addition to the Bilstein. I have Bilsteins as well but is it possible that something shorter than a Bilstein could provide the same amount of travel in a shorter overall body? Or are there perhaps several models of Bilsteins which are different sizes? (Hopefully, I've asked the right questions to help the author of the thread.)
Yup, just trying to find out whats out there and what other people have done.

Thanks,
Dave
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 02:39 PM
  #6  
QS-ZO6's Avatar
QS-ZO6
Advanced
 
Joined: Oct 2004
Posts: 76
Likes: 0
From: Tomball Texas
Default Lowered C5 Shocks

I know that we have mega lowered several C5's, most of them running the Bilstein shocks. We have had nothing but good luck with them. The set runs $399. Give me a call at the shop at 281-870-8787 if you have any questions.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 03:38 PM
  #7  
vettethret's Avatar
vettethret
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 0
From: Dana Point Ca
Default

Originally Posted by Davesredvette
Yup, just trying to find out whats out there and what other people have done.

Thanks,
Dave
Call Craig at WCC. MY car is lowered 4" with coil overs. He had bilstein custom make a 2" shorter shock body for increased travel. I think it was only about $50 extra. This is the best way to go as it will still bolt right in.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 03:51 PM
  #8  
Paras's Avatar
Paras
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,884
Likes: 2
From: Walnut CA
Default

That's awesome! But how do you clear speed bumps & dips? I hated life in So. Cal. only being lowered only 2 inches! (from my experience Laguna is a much friendlier place for lowered cars, no doubt...)

Originally Posted by vettethret
Call Craig at WCC. MY car is lowered 4" with coil overs. He had bilstein custom make a 2" shorter shock body for increased travel. I think it was only about $50 extra. This is the best way to go as it will still bolt right in.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

 Brett Foote
story-2

10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

 Michael S. Palmer
story-3

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-7

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:03 PM
  #9  
vettethret's Avatar
vettethret
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 0
From: Dana Point Ca
Default

Originally Posted by Paras
That's awesome! But how do you clear speed bumps & dips? I hated life in So. Cal. only being lowered only 2 inches! (from my experience Laguna is a much friendlier place for lowered cars, no doubt...)
Ipretty much drive the same route all the time. I know it's impossible to believe but I dont scrape a whole lot. I just ordered the same splitters as ALLKAR so that might change!
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:07 PM
  #10  
curtbriggs's Avatar
curtbriggs
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 324
Likes: 2
From: Rogersville TN
Default

Originally Posted by vettethret
Call Craig at WCC. MY car is lowered 4" with coil overs. He had bilstein custom make a 2" shorter shock body for increased travel. I think it was only about $50 extra. This is the best way to go as it will still bolt right in.
Do you have any bump steer issues? If not were the tie rods and steering modified as in lowered or were the steering arms modified?
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:10 PM
  #11  
vettethret's Avatar
vettethret
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 0
From: Dana Point Ca
Default

Originally Posted by curtbriggs
Do you have any bump steer issues? If not were the tie rods and steering modified as in lowered or were the steering arms modified?
In my CAR EVERYTHING is modified. I do have the bump steer it from Baer though. No bump ster to speak of.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:39 PM
  #12  
Fast one's Avatar
Fast one
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Jan 2001
Posts: 5,015
Likes: 508
From: Hilton NY
Default

If the upper steel mounts are reversed you can gain 1/2" but don't the shocks limit the upward wheel travel? I had Bilsteins and the tires were just hitting the tops of the wheel wells so shorter shocks would be worse. If the ride height is lowered 4" there can't be much upper wheel travel left.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 04:52 PM
  #13  
curtbriggs's Avatar
curtbriggs
Racer
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 324
Likes: 2
From: Rogersville TN
Default

Originally Posted by vettethret
In my CAR EVERYTHING is modified. I do have the bump steer it from Baer though. No bump ster to speak of.
Mike, I looked your car up, impressive!

Cheers, Curt
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 05:08 PM
  #14  
vettethret's Avatar
vettethret
Melting Slicks
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2001
Posts: 2,765
Likes: 0
From: Dana Point Ca
Default

Originally Posted by curtbriggs
Mike, I looked your car up, impressive!

Cheers, Curt
Thanks Curt. I've got a ton of dough just in suspension so I've been through the ups and downs on what works and what doesnt.
Reply
Old Oct 19, 2004 | 06:14 PM
  #15  
Davesredvette's Avatar
Davesredvette
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
From: Talty TX
Default

Originally Posted by vettethret
Call Craig at WCC. MY car is lowered 4" with coil overs. He had bilstein custom make a 2" shorter shock body for increased travel. I think it was only about $50 extra. This is the best way to go as it will still bolt right in.
Ya, I know coil overs are the hot ticket but just a little over budget. I checked the Bilstein web site and didn't see anything other than generic C5 shocks. They have a couple different firmness models but no mention of shorter length. Sounds like they can make what ever size I need from your post.

Thanks,
Dave
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 01:49 PM
  #16  
2kbluestreak's Avatar
2kbluestreak
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 1
From: Morganton, NC, USA
Default

I lowered my Z51 2" in the rear at the same time I added Bilstein Sports, and it would bottom out at 70mph at a certain dip in the road. Boy, it would really bounce me out of the seat. So then, I reversed and modified the upper shock mounts, gaining .800" by measurement. When I hit that dip again, the rear suspension didn't bottom out anymore, but the O.D.'s of the tires slightly rubbed on the inner fenders. So, I think I've found the boundaries for a lowered Z51. To prevent further rubbing,
I raised the rear a half inch.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2004 | 02:32 PM
  #17  
Paras's Avatar
Paras
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2003
Posts: 1,884
Likes: 2
From: Walnut CA
Default

Would stiffer springs have kept you from bottoming out?
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Will shorter shocks help a lowered C5???

Old Oct 20, 2004 | 06:25 PM
  #18  
Davesredvette's Avatar
Davesredvette
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
From: Talty TX
Default

Originally Posted by 2kbluestreak
I lowered my Z51 2" in the rear at the same time I added Bilstein Sports, and it would bottom out at 70mph at a certain dip in the road. Boy, it would really bounce me out of the seat. So then, I reversed and modified the upper shock mounts, gaining .800" by measurement. When I hit that dip again, the rear suspension didn't bottom out anymore, but the O.D.'s of the tires slightly rubbed on the inner fenders. So, I think I've found the boundaries for a lowered Z51. To prevent further rubbing,
I raised the rear a half inch.
Ya, that's what I'm afraid of, bottoming out at the track going 125...What all was involved with modifying the shock bracket?

Thanks,
Dave
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 09:30 AM
  #19  
2kbluestreak's Avatar
2kbluestreak
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 1,132
Likes: 1
From: Morganton, NC, USA
Default

The rear upper shock brackets are steel stampings shaped like a football with rounded points. They have a stiffening lip on the down side, while the top side is flat where it seats against the frame and inner fender. You really do not want to simply flip it around so that it seats on the stiffening lip. Some guys have ground off the lip, but this weakens the mount plate. What you should to is shim the face so that the lip has a little clearance with the frame surface. A lot of guys have simply stacked washers so they are thicker than the lip. I had some 1/4" aluminum handy, so I cut 2 little triangles for each mount plate that fit inside the lip in the corners, then drilled holes to match the holes in the mount plate. This gains a little surface area over washers for better support of the mount plate. The Bilstein sports have a small bushing on their shafts that the lower washer seats against. I used a lathe to short these by .100", which gained me the same amount of raising the end of the shock rod.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2004 | 09:19 PM
  #20  
Davesredvette's Avatar
Davesredvette
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Mar 2004
Posts: 675
Likes: 0
From: Talty TX
Default

Thanks 2Kbluestreak, I really appreciate it. I think I will give it a go this weekend!!!!

Thanks again,
Dave
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 12:57 AM.

story-0
10 Ugly Corvettes That We Still Kinda Love

Slideshow: 10 ugly Corvettes that we still kinda love.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-06-03 10:34:17


VIEW MORE
story-1
Top 10 Most Expensive Corvettes Ever Sold on Bring A Trailer

A lot of money has changed hands at the online auction house over the years.

By Brett Foote | 2026-06-03 10:21:50


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Things Every Corvette Owner Needs (2026 Edition)

Slideshow: 10 great gifts Corvette enthusiasts actually want for Father's Day!

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-06-03 15:43:40


VIEW MORE
story-3
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-4
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-5
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-6
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-9
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE