Z06 front stabilizer bar bushings? to grease or not to grease...that is the question
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Z06 front stabilizer bar bushings? to grease or not to grease...that is the question
OK, ready to install Z06 stabilizer bars on my '03 vert w/ F55. But I've received two opposing opinions on the subject of whether to grease the front bushings or not. Here's the points:
- one member says not to grease as it has special woven material for the front bars and the grease ruined his bushings and he had to replace
- another member says he did not grease them and the woven material frayed and he had to replace
- LS1howto.com says to grease both front and rear
- and finally, when the bushings arrived, the rears were already greased up a little and the fronts were not...completely dry
I appreciate everyone's input, but now not sure which action to take. Does anybody have a definitive answer once and for all. Anyone with a service manual that states what to do?
Thanks,
Brad
- one member says not to grease as it has special woven material for the front bars and the grease ruined his bushings and he had to replace
- another member says he did not grease them and the woven material frayed and he had to replace
- LS1howto.com says to grease both front and rear
- and finally, when the bushings arrived, the rears were already greased up a little and the fronts were not...completely dry
I appreciate everyone's input, but now not sure which action to take. Does anybody have a definitive answer once and for all. Anyone with a service manual that states what to do?
Thanks,
Brad
Last edited by BradSW; 10-31-2004 at 11:52 AM.
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St. Jude Donor '03-'04
The woven material helps to keep the grease in place.. using the right grease is important.,. using a petro grease here is a No no, it will eat away at the bushings over time.. If you do not use grease , two things happen.. the dry woven material will wear off the paint on the sway bars..this inturn turns to rust..this rust causes wear and noise.. Put some Dielectric grease on the bushings..
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Originally Posted by Paras
Evil-Twin... how do you know this stuff?
FWIW, I just had my entire suspension replace at a race shop... and they GREASED my swaybars!!
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Originally Posted by Shortimer
Dielectric grease, is that the same stuff recommended for the rubber around the doors?
then I wait an hour or so...then I go back with a dry rag and wipe off the residue..
FYI years ago people use to put vaseline pertolium jelly on weather stripping.. any petro grease will turn acidic after a while..I dont mean like sulfuric acid.. but the PH will rise and attack the rubber.. Dielectric grease will not attack the rubber . A couple of times a year and you can keep your weather stripping forever.. it is more critical to grease the weather stripping in the summer..
I would say April August will get you through a whole year...
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Originally Posted by Evil-Twin
Yeah that will work.. after you apply it, I massage it into the rubber with my fingers..
then I wait an hour or so...then I go back with a dry rag and wipe off the residue..
FYI years ago people use to put vaseline pertolium jelly on weather stripping.. any petro grease will turn acidic after a while..I dont mean like sulfuric acid.. but the PH will rise and attack the rubber.. Dielectric grease will not attack the rubber . A couple of times a year and you can keep your weather stripping forever.. it is more critical to grease the weather stripping in the summer..
I would say April August will get you through a whole year...
then I wait an hour or so...then I go back with a dry rag and wipe off the residue..
FYI years ago people use to put vaseline pertolium jelly on weather stripping.. any petro grease will turn acidic after a while..I dont mean like sulfuric acid.. but the PH will rise and attack the rubber.. Dielectric grease will not attack the rubber . A couple of times a year and you can keep your weather stripping forever.. it is more critical to grease the weather stripping in the summer..
I would say April August will get you through a whole year...
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Grease them. What harm can possibly come of it? When the bushings are greased, the swaybar can move freely and won't bind.
Everyone I know who tracks their cars, regardless of make/model, greases their swaybar bushings.
Everyone I know who tracks their cars, regardless of make/model, greases their swaybar bushings.
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Originally Posted by TomT
Fichtner Chevrolet said DO NOT grease the woven bushings. I didn't and they work fine. I believe them.
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Originally Posted by dmtnt
Grease them. What harm can possibly come of it? When the bushings are greased, the swaybar can move freely and won't bind.
Everyone I know who tracks their cars, regardless of make/model, greases their swaybar bushings.
Everyone I know who tracks their cars, regardless of make/model, greases their swaybar bushings.
I think I'm the one you quoted as saying if you don't grease them the woven material will fray and come out. Last season I didn't know about greasing them and my woven material did dry out and come out. As I was installing new bushings, a very senior T1 driver saw me doing it and asked if I was greasing them frequently. I wasn't. He recommended I do. Now I do. The new ones have lasted all 2004 and are still in good shape.
I honestly don't know what the shop manual says about this, if anything. I speak from practical experience. My recommendation, put a good synthetic grease on them.
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Lubing sway bars...
3 years ago, when I started modding my '97, I tried several different bars, they squeeked.
I went to Dick Guldstrand in Burbank and he reinstalled my T1 bars (the ones I ended up selecting) and he removed the paint in the area of the bushing and put a white very viscose lubricant that I think probably was a silicone based product. This was a very sticky substance, he put some on my fingers and it took several washings to finally get it off.
The T1 bushings put the highest load of any ready made bar on the bushings and they have been squeek free for around 20,000 miles including sloshing through lots of deep puddles!
Roy
I went to Dick Guldstrand in Burbank and he reinstalled my T1 bars (the ones I ended up selecting) and he removed the paint in the area of the bushing and put a white very viscose lubricant that I think probably was a silicone based product. This was a very sticky substance, he put some on my fingers and it took several washings to finally get it off.
The T1 bushings put the highest load of any ready made bar on the bushings and they have been squeek free for around 20,000 miles including sloshing through lots of deep puddles!
Roy
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