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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 03:52 PM
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i may be getting an A4 97 and would want to get an M6 installed, anyone done them or had them done, what is involved how much work, parts, money involved, i would be able to get a good deal on the parts, but would like to have it done dont have the time to do it myself, any info would be appreciated greatly
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:23 PM
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It would be a lot easier to get a Vette with a M6 to start with rather than making one.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:28 PM
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i may be getting an A4 97 and would want to get an M6 installed, anyone done them or had them done, what is involved how much work, parts, money involved, i would be able to get a good deal on the parts, but would like to have it done dont have the time to do it myself, any info would be appreciated greatly
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Find someone who's interested in swapping Parts with You that wants an A4 , It will save You alot of money in Parts. Labor Your looking around $ 2000.00 + Upgrades (clutch etc.).
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 06:40 PM
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Forum member mfrnka had it done by a local tuner and it cost quite a bit. But having recently had his drivetrain out ourselves to replace the diff, we agreed we should have done it ourselves in the first place. I suppose it depends on what you consider difficult or expensive. I think it's too expensive to let someone else do it so I'd do it myself if I was looking to do a swap.
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 11:43 AM
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i may be getting an A4 97 and would want to get an M6 installed, anyone done them or had them done, what is involved how much work, parts, money involved, i would be able to get a good deal on the parts, but would like to have it done dont have the time to do it myself, any info would be appreciated greatly
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I was considering swapping my A4 for a M6. I contacted Genes Kar Shop and they game me the following quote:

trans, drive shaft, clutch&flywheel, pedal assemblies, shifter, slave cylinder, and the wire harnesses i have are from a 2003.
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I was considering swapping my A4 for a M6. I contacted Genes Kar Shop and they game me the following quote:

trans, drive shaft, clutch&flywheel, pedal assemblies, shifter, slave cylinder, and the wire harnesses i have are from a 2003.
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all parts---$2500
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Old Nov 15, 2004 | 04:38 PM
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I have a 2004 that I had swapped form an Auto to maunal. All work was done at MTI racing in Marietta,GA. They cab be reached at 770.919.7774. Swaping the parts is the easy part. The wiring is where the work comes in. My car has no codes and everything functions, ie: cruise shut off, reverse lock out, neutral safety switch, reverse lights, etc. I could not be happier with the work MTI did.
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Consider a HD shift kit and Yank Converter. You will be surprised what an A4 can do
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 09:44 AM
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yeah i know an auto would be nice but im used to a manual i have a 6 speed Z28 right now and i had previously owned an auto c4 and i love the driving experience soo much more in my z28,
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 10:42 AM
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I just swapped my C5 from an M6 to an A4.

It's really a pretty easy but time consuming swap. Everything bolts right in. Swapping to the M6 is a little easier than swapping in an A4 because the pins needed for the M6 are already installed at the PCM (they serve a different function for the A4). Therefore if you get an M6 tranny harness for the correct year car you can simply swap tranny harnesses and that we resolve 99% of your wiring issues. The remaining wiring is to the neutral switch which you need to bring in to the cab and run to the clutch switch. So the wiring isn't too bad when going from an A4 to an M6. However, on my M6 to A4 conversion the extra pins needed for the A4 aren’t installed at the PCM. So I made my own tranny harness that is a direct connection between the PCM and the tranny and left the existing harness alone (it has wires for the ABS unit and other functions).

Figure on $1500-$2500 for the conversion parts (plus upgrades) and probably at least that much for labor. The PCM will need to be reprogrammed as well.

Unless you are getting a really good deal on the car (like I did on mine) I'd suggest that it would be more cost effective to hold out for a car with an M6 that you like.
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 03:35 PM
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[QUOTE=Eric Fischer]I just swapped my C5 from an M6 to an A4.

That's the first M6 to A4 swap I heard of. What was the reason for the change?
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Old Nov 16, 2004 | 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by budmont
Originally Posted by Eric Fischer
I just swapped my C5 from an M6 to an A4.
That's the first M6 to A4 swap I heard of. What was the reason for the change?
Because I am a glutton for punishment

Seriously there are a bunch of reasons:

1) I found a mint condition C5 in the color I wanted (Fairway Green) for an excellent price but I really wanted an A4. Since Chevy only made 400 Fairway Green C5's I settled for the M6 as the price on the car was too good to pass up.
2) I was willing to give the M6 a shot, but I found the shifting to be notchy, had trouble power shifting the 1-2, had the clutch pedal sticking to the floor syndrome, etc. And about a year ago a forum member was selling his COMPLETE A4 setup for about $900. I picked it up and let it sit...
3) Until this year when the clutch gave up. So my choice was to invest a lot of money to get the M6 up to par (new clutch, Z06 slave and master cylinder) or simply install the A4. I chose to install the A4.
4) The car is primarily used for drag racing. And of course, the A4 is much more consistent for drag racing not mention it's easier on the drivetrain
5) Performance at the stip - I have seen many A4's at the track with the simple bolt-ons of gears, converter and LT headers, go high 11's in the 1/4. The A4's work very well in the C5 and are very efficient. My goal is to go low 12's so I don't have to put in a roll bar. But now that the rules are relaxed, I might step it up to go 11.50's.
6) Cost wasn't much of an issue as I can probably sell my M6 stuff for about $2K and so far it's cost me about $1500 for the A4 (I do all the labor myself -- the A4 trans and accessories was $900, Yank 3000 converter was $400 used from a forum member, and another $200 for expendables [gaskets, fluid, bolts, misc]).
7) I guess it runs in the family, as I converted my Dad's 1996 LT4 to an A4 as well.

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